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Old 03-23-2013, 07:19 PM
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Storm Fighter (Gary Stevens to ride) and Summer Exclusive to the Santa Anita Derby.
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Old 03-24-2013, 06:51 AM
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Vyjack fans should be rather pleased if they haven't seen the video of his work Friday with Head Heart Hoof. Not only is the drill sharp, Vyjack finishes with a tremendous double gallop out.. YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PibDchGwWiU

The Wood is going to be terrific.. Current probables/possibles:

Verrazano (Pletcher)
Normandy Invasion (C. Brown)
Vyjack (Rodriguez)
West Hills Giant (Terranova)
Elnaawi (McLaughlin)
Are You Kidding Me (Attfield)
Mr Palmer (Mott)
Always in a Tiz (Schettino)
Indy’s Illusion (Tagg)
Quinzieme Monarque (Albertrani)

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Speak Logistics (Plesa)**
War Academy (Baffert)**
Tiz the Truth (Baffert)**
Power Broker (Baffert)**
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Old 03-24-2013, 07:44 AM
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Some good horses are going to miss the Derby because connections didn't shop and ship for easier spots.
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Old 03-24-2013, 08:00 AM
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can you give examples ?
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Old 03-24-2013, 08:35 AM
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can you give examples ?
Is anyone banging on the table saying how strong the Spiral and Sunland Derby came up? Both are 50 point races.
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Old 03-24-2013, 12:08 PM
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Vyjack fans should be rather pleased if they haven't seen the video of his work Friday with Head Heart Hoof. Not only is the drill sharp, Vyjack finishes with a tremendous double gallop out.. YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PibDchGwWiU

The Wood is going to be terrific.. Current probables/possibles:

Verrazano (Pletcher)
Normandy Invasion (C. Brown)
Vyjack (Rodriguez)
West Hills Giant (Terranova)
Elnaawi (McLaughlin)
Are You Kidding Me (Attfield)
Mr Palmer (Mott)
Always in a Tiz (Schettino)
Indy’s Illusion (Tagg)
Quinzieme Monarque (Albertrani)

Siete de Oros (Preciado)**
Speak Logistics (Plesa)**
War Academy (Baffert)**
Tiz the Truth (Baffert)**
Power Broker (Baffert)**
Will Always in a Tiz still be ridden by Paco Lopez? I'm not giving him much of a chance in this field, but if he's matured a little I'm curious about him. He's seemed so green in his last couple races.
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Old 03-25-2013, 09:43 PM
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Vyjack fans should be rather pleased if they haven't seen the video of his work Friday with Head Heart Hoof. Not only is the drill sharp, Vyjack finishes with a tremendous double gallop out.. YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PibDchGwWiU

The Wood is going to be terrific.. Current probables/possibles:

Verrazano (Pletcher)
Normandy Invasion (C. Brown)
Vyjack (Rodriguez)
West Hills Giant (Terranova)
Elnaawi (McLaughlin)
Are You Kidding Me (Attfield)
Mr Palmer (Mott)
Always in a Tiz (Schettino)
Indy’s Illusion (Tagg)
Quinzieme Monarque (Albertrani)

Siete de Oros (Preciado)**
Speak Logistics (Plesa)**
War Academy (Baffert)**
Tiz the Truth (Baffert)**
Power Broker (Baffert)**
She wins it and is eligible for both the Derby and the Oaks
How does Govenor Charlie get a bigger Beyer than the obviously more impressive and totally geared down Midnight Lucky?
This might be the real problem with the new "Point" System.
Does the filly get points only for the Oaks?
She might be favored at this point against most of the male contenders.
Does she go the route of Rachel Alexandra and dominate the Oaks then win the Preakness and Belmont?
That would be a rip off!
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Old 03-25-2013, 09:59 PM
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She wins it and is eligible for both the Derby and the Oaks
How does Govenor Charlie get a bigger Beyer than the obviously more impressive and totally geared down Midnight Lucky?
This might be the real problem with the new "Point" System.
Does the filly get points only for the Oaks?
She might be favored at this point against most of the male contenders.
Does she go the route of Rachel Alexandra and dominate the Oaks then win the Preakness and Belmont?
That would be a rip off!
What made her "obviously more impressive?"
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Old 03-25-2013, 10:13 PM
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Talking Bejarans Ride

I thought Raphy's ride was as motionless as I have ever see!
Never touched her with the whip and was completly geared down the last 1/16 New track record!
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Old 03-25-2013, 10:20 PM
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I thought Raphy's ride was as motionless as I have ever see!
Never touched her with the whip and was completly geared down the last 1/16 New track record!
Weren't there 3 track records there yesterday?

Bejarano seemed to ask her a bit early in the stretch and then she was geared down. She's very, very good. But would you really want to bet her 6 weeks from now in a 20 horse field going 10 furlongs?
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Old 03-25-2013, 10:28 PM
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I just thought that this is a bias gaff in the point system
Just like to see if anybody thinks she is good enough to beat her male classmates
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Old 03-26-2013, 05:47 PM
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Weren't there 3 track records there yesterday?

Bejarano seemed to ask her a bit early in the stretch and then she was geared down. She's very, very good. But would you really want to bet her 6 weeks from now in a 20 horse field going 10 furlongs?
I don't even want to bet her in the Oaks. I don't believe a single thing from that track.

The only thing that I will say is that generally, that CD surface, plays alot like the Sunland track was on Oaks and Derby Day. Not necessarily speed favoring, but razor tight.
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