6/8 (BEL) 145th Belmont Stakes: Field at 14 as 'Tiz' passes

[Sightseek]

Storm Fighter (Gary Stevens to ride) and Summer Exclusive to the Santa Anita Derby.

[Kasept]

Vyjack fans should be rather pleased if they haven't seen the video of his work Friday with Head Heart Hoof. Not only is the drill sharp, Vyjack finishes with a tremendous double gallop out.. YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PibDchGwWiU

The Wood is going to be terrific.. Current probables/possibles:

Verrazano (Pletcher)
Normandy Invasion (C. Brown)
Vyjack (Rodriguez)
West Hills Giant (Terranova)
Elnaawi (McLaughlin)
Are You Kidding Me (Attfield)
Mr Palmer (Mott)
Always in a Tiz (Schettino)
Indy’s Illusion (Tagg)
Quinzieme Monarque (Albertrani)

Siete de Oros (Preciado)**
Speak Logistics (Plesa)**
War Academy (Baffert)**
Tiz the Truth (Baffert)**
Power Broker (Baffert)**

[jms62]

Some good horses are going to miss the Derby because connections didn't shop and ship for easier spots.

[Alabama Stakes]

can you give examples ?

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

can you give examples ?

Is anyone banging on the table saying how strong the Spiral and Sunland Derby came up? Both are 50 point races.

[pmayjr]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Vyjack fans should be rather pleased if they haven't seen the video of his work Friday with Head Heart Hoof. Not only is the drill sharp, Vyjack finishes with a tremendous double gallop out.. YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PibDchGwWiU

The Wood is going to be terrific.. Current probables/possibles:

Verrazano (Pletcher)
Normandy Invasion (C. Brown)
Vyjack (Rodriguez)
West Hills Giant (Terranova)
Elnaawi (McLaughlin)
Are You Kidding Me (Attfield)
Mr Palmer (Mott)
Always in a Tiz (Schettino)
Indy’s Illusion (Tagg)
Quinzieme Monarque (Albertrani)

Siete de Oros (Preciado)**
Speak Logistics (Plesa)**
War Academy (Baffert)**
Tiz the Truth (Baffert)**
Power Broker (Baffert)**

Will Always in a Tiz still be ridden by Paco Lopez? I'm not giving him much of a chance in this field, but if he's matured a little I'm curious about him. He's seemed so green in his last couple races.

[goodcopy]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Vyjack fans should be rather pleased if they haven't seen the video of his work Friday with Head Heart Hoof. Not only is the drill sharp, Vyjack finishes with a tremendous double gallop out.. YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PibDchGwWiU

The Wood is going to be terrific.. Current probables/possibles:

Verrazano (Pletcher)
Normandy Invasion (C. Brown)
Vyjack (Rodriguez)
West Hills Giant (Terranova)
Elnaawi (McLaughlin)
Are You Kidding Me (Attfield)
Mr Palmer (Mott)
Always in a Tiz (Schettino)
Indy’s Illusion (Tagg)
Quinzieme Monarque (Albertrani)

Siete de Oros (Preciado)**
Speak Logistics (Plesa)**
War Academy (Baffert)**
Tiz the Truth (Baffert)**
Power Broker (Baffert)**

She wins it and is eligible for both the Derby and the Oaks
How does Govenor Charlie get a bigger Beyer than the obviously more impressive and totally geared down Midnight Lucky?
This might be the real problem with the new "Point" System.
Does the filly get points only for the Oaks?
She might be favored at this point against most of the male contenders.
Does she go the route of Rachel Alexandra and dominate the Oaks then win the Preakness and Belmont?
That would be a rip off!

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by goodcopy

She wins it and is eligible for both the Derby and the Oaks
How does Govenor Charlie get a bigger Beyer than the obviously more impressive and totally geared down Midnight Lucky?
This might be the real problem with the new "Point" System.
Does the filly get points only for the Oaks?
She might be favored at this point against most of the male contenders.
Does she go the route of Rachel Alexandra and dominate the Oaks then win the Preakness and Belmont?
That would be a rip off!

What made her "obviously more impressive?"

[goodcopy]

I thought Raphy's ride was as motionless as I have ever see!
Never touched her with the whip and was completly geared down the last 1/16 New track record!

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by goodcopy

I thought Raphy's ride was as motionless as I have ever see!
Never touched her with the whip and was completly geared down the last 1/16 New track record!

Weren't there 3 track records there yesterday?

Bejarano seemed to ask her a bit early in the stretch and then she was geared down. She's very, very good. But would you really want to bet her 6 weeks from now in a 20 horse field going 10 furlongs?

[goodcopy]

I just thought that this is a bias gaff in the point system
Just like to see if anybody thinks she is good enough to beat her male classmates

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Weren't there 3 track records there yesterday?

Bejarano seemed to ask her a bit early in the stretch and then she was geared down. She's very, very good. But would you really want to bet her 6 weeks from now in a 20 horse field going 10 furlongs?

I don't even want to bet her in the Oaks. I don't believe a single thing from that track.

The only thing that I will say is that generally, that CD surface, plays alot like the Sunland track was on Oaks and Derby Day. Not necessarily speed favoring, but razor tight.