Moss calls him the best WR ever at Super Bowl press confrence

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Moss was the #1 player in the country at ANY position coming out of high school. He's obviously light years the best college WR of all-time.

I'm going to be serious for a second....why does this matter at all?

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Anyone who didn't regularly watch Moss play in his early years in Minnesota shouldn't talk.

Just like those who didn't watch Rice play regularly shouldn't either.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

I'm going to be serious for a second....why does this matter at all?

Because the NFL imposes restrictions.

The idea that someone has to waste 3 years of their life playing for free at a college is ridiculous.

Most WR's aren't even ready to play by their rookie year, so the restriction isn't as harmful to them like it was for Moss.

Moss was the undisputed best WR in football his rookie season. He was the only WR selected 1st team All-Pro by all 3 voting blocks...and his QB who started the season as a back-up in his 14th season and was unemployed the previous year, was second in the voting for NFL MVP even though he only started 14 games.

Rice was obviously the better NFL player in terms of body of work. Hell, he's probably the best NFL player in history in terms of body of work.

However, Rice had Joe Montana and Steve Young in his prime and he played in a system that was based on attacking teams with underneath passes instead of running the ball. So, perfect system for him, with great QB's.

Moss didn't get Tom Brady until he was 30 years old. And Pollard ended Brady's season in the 1st quarter of the 1st game the next season. So, Moss was 32-years-old and washed up when he had his 2nd season with Brady (just 1,264 yards receiving and tied for an NFL best 13 TD's)

[Dahoss]

Honestly man, the fact he couldn't turn pro until he did probably prolonged his career. Calling him immature and saying his priorities were out of wack at that age would be an understatement. Imagine if he had a bunch of money?

How many 49er games did you watch in the 80's and early 90's?

[King Glorious]

I have Moss as the best. The fact that people keep bringing up that Moss would take plays off is funny to me. To take plays off and still compile the numbers he did is incredible. The thing they don't understand is that a lot of the time, it was not only excepted by his coaches but also asked for. They wanted him conserving his energy for when they were asking him to go long. Whereas Rice might run three straight routes of 10-15 yards, Moss would be asked to run 40 yards. So if he took the next play off to be ready to run 40 yards again, they were ok with that.

Rice was more consistent. Moss was more explosive. Over a three game stretch, Rice might go for 8-100-1 each game. Moss might go 2-45-0, 3-60-0, 4-180-3. Moss put more fear into defensive backs and coordinators than anyone else ever has. You had to make sure you had both safeties in the area. It's no coincidence that the two most prolific single season offenses in NFL history both featured Moss.

Adding to what Calzone was saying about his college days, coaching staffs at both Notre Dame and Florida St said he was the greatest athlete to ever come to those schools. Going back to high school, he was also twice named as the top basketball player, even though future #7 NBA draft pick Jason Williams was on his team.

Give me equal players to surround them with and I'm taking Moss. There has never been an athlete like him and I doubt I'll ever see another one.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

There has never been an athlete like him and I doubt I'll ever see another one.

The hyperbole here is great. Ever hear of Bo Jackson? How about Jim Brown?

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

The hyperbole here is great. Ever hear of Bo Jackson? How about Jim Brown?

They weren't as good as Moss. Other than strength, there isn't any measurable thing I could think of that places them higher than Moss. We're talking about arguably the best receiver in history that was also a state 100/200 meter champ in track and was good enough to be voted top basketball player in the state over a future top 10 pick NBA player. Bowden and Holtz both said he was the best athlete ever at their respective schools and he never even played for them. Jackson was great. Brown was too. Deion Sanders was too. Joe Mauer is another top one. Maybe Dave Winfield is comparable.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

They weren't as good as Moss. Other than strength, there isn't any measurable thing I could think of that places them higher than Moss. We're talking about arguably the best receiver in history that was also a state 100/200 meter champ in track and was good enough to be voted top basketball player in the state over a future top 10 pick NBA player. Bowden and Holtz both said he was the best athlete ever at their respective schools and he never even played for them. Jackson was great. Brown was too. Deion Sanders was too. Joe Mauer is another top one. Maybe Dave Winfield is comparable.

Well if Lou Holtz said something it must be true.

Bo Jackson was a better athlete and so was Jim Brown. Aside from running the fastest 40 yard dash ever at the combine, Jackson also ran track at Auburn and qualified for Nationals his freshman and sophomore years. I'll take that over being the HS state champ in West Virginia, but just for good measure Jackson was also a two time state champ in the 100 meter dash, in Alabama. He was as good as Moss, if not better in college, he averaged over 6 yards per carry and won a Heisman. He was able to make an all star team in pro baseball and pro bowl in the NFL in his brief career.