comedic relief

[Indian Charlie]

My favorite part of that article...

"But unlike Zenyatta, Eblouissante relies on the individual dynamic for most of her forward movement. Zenyatta only exerted her individual dynamic when she had to (when she encountered a talented and stubborn foe)."

Really? Like those talented and stubborn 16k claimer types she was beating by desperate noses?

I would also like to know why, if Z had such an awesome herd dynamic, why did she not just go to the lead at the start, or at the very least, earlier in the race?

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

There's a video on Youtube where he's talking to Baffert about this herd analysis. Bob's expression is pretty priceless.

Link us!

[DaTruth]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

My favorite part of that article...

"But unlike Zenyatta, Eblouissante relies on the individual dynamic for most of her forward movement. Zenyatta only exerted her individual dynamic when she had to (when she encountered a talented and stubborn foe)."

Really? Like those talented and stubborn 16k claimer types she was beating by desperate noses?

I would also like to know why, if Z had such an awesome herd dynamic, why did she not just go to the lead at the start, or at the very least, earlier in the race?

Zenyatta has a nurturing side, which she displayed by not running past her opponents until the very last possible moment. This left her opponents with the feeling that they had won. Zenyatta cares.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by DaTruth

Zenyatta has a nurturing side, which she displayed by not running past her opponents until the very last possible moment. This left her opponents with the feeling that they had won. Zenyatta cares.

She was the Bill Brasky of horses

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

My favorite part of that article...

"But unlike Zenyatta, Eblouissante relies on the individual dynamic for most of her forward movement. Zenyatta only exerted her individual dynamic when she had to (when she encountered a talented and stubborn foe)."

Really? Like those talented and stubborn 16k claimer types she was beating by desperate noses?

I would also like to know why, if Z had such an awesome herd dynamic, why did she not just go to the lead at the start, or at the very least, earlier in the race?

Maybe it's something about her name that causes some people to say remarkably stupid things about her.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Maybe it's something about her name that causes some people to say remarkably stupid things about her.

Like that it's in English?

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Link us!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5otgqYgftw

It's been awhile since I've seen it and I think I was projecting a bit of my 'uh..riiiight' onto Bob because he's trying to go with it in the parts that I looked at for a second to make sure it was the right video. This is 10 min. long.

I'd like to see a horse that wasn't fulfilling its potential until this guy analyzed the situation and they made some changes.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Merlinsky

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5otgqYgftw

It's been awhile since I've seen it and I think I was projecting a bit of my 'uh..riiiight' onto Bob because he's trying to go with it in the parts that I looked at for a second to make sure it was the right video. This is 10 min. long.

I'd like to see a horse that wasn't fulfilling its potential until this guy analyzed the situation and they made some changes.

I ended up hunting that down last night and viewed it.

My thoughts watching that were that Baffert was being paid for his video appearance, and was trying his hardest to make it sound like he believed in that crap.

[Calzone Lord]

I would have loved to see him interviewing Cannon Shell

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

I would have loved to see him interviewing Cannon Shell

That would have been interesting.

Hell, I'm eagerly anticipating the day when Stauffer uses this stuff in a race call.

"She's got the speed of Blind Luck, the class of Ashado, the color of Lady's Secret and the herd dynamics of Zenyatta!"

[Calzone Lord]

Any good handicapper looks for the good and bad attributes a horse has. How a horse handles different types of surfaces and situations, etc.

This guy tries to do the same thing...but in a hilariously BS kind of way.

We all know a horse like a Perfect Drift or Dynever had a lot of hang to them as they got older ... he would explain it by going off into some mumbo jumbo herd dynamics rant ... where as a rational person doesn't try to explain why PD became a hanger... they just call him a hanger.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Any good handicapper looks for the good and bad attributes a horse has. How a horse handles different types of surfaces and situations, etc.

This guy tries to do the same thing...but in a hilariously BS kind of way.

We all know a horse like a Perfect Drift or Dynever had a lot of hang to them as they got older ... he would explain it by going off into some mumbo jumbo herd dynamics rant ... where as a rational person doesn't try to explain why PD became a hanger... they just call him a hanger.

wow that is the two best examples of a hanger i could ever think of..

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Any good handicapper looks for the good and bad attributes a horse has. How a horse handles different types of surfaces and situations, etc.

This guy tries to do the same thing...but in a hilariously BS kind of way.

We all know a horse like a Perfect Drift or Dynever had a lot of hang to them as they got older ... he would explain it by going off into some mumbo jumbo herd dynamics rant ... where as a rational person doesn't try to explain why PD became a hanger... they just call him a hanger.

Yeah, it's not just calling Perfect Drift a hanger, it's figuring out a way to correct it. Otherwise it's useless because bettors who are paying attention to a horse already know they have a tendency to hang from looking at the same things this guy did. They don't need herd dynamics to tell them, so it doesn't even have a practical betting application.