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Old 01-04-2013, 10:42 PM
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All for a fvcking bowl of soup...

http://www.grindtv.com/outdoor/blog/...+kong+rooftop/
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that is awful. 10k fins, that's about 2000 sharks. absolutely reprehensible. problem is, sharks don't have quite the pr campaign that elephants and rhinos and whales have.
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Old 01-05-2013, 11:28 AM
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that is awful. 10k fins, that's about 2000 sharks. absolutely reprehensible. problem is, sharks don't have quite the pr campaign that elephants and rhinos and whales have.
Ocearch is getting a lot of press and has been appearing on a lot of general news programs -- hopefully that helps get the word out and put the pressure on!

http://www.ocearch.org/
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Old 01-22-2013, 10:10 PM
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Lolita...

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Old 01-22-2013, 10:48 PM
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“Lolita, light of my life, fire of my loins. My sin, my soul. Lo-lee-ta: the tip of the tongue taking a trip of three steps down the palate to tap, at three, on the teeth."


great book!!
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Old 01-22-2013, 11:50 PM
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Great book, indeed. The Russian, Nabokov, knew more about America than the average American.

"Lo, the poor Indian."

"Our glass lake."

And the single best anagram in all of literature, Vivian Darkbloom, a character in the novel, is an anagram of Vladimir Nabokov.

By the way, who eats killer whales anyway?

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Old 01-23-2013, 12:56 AM
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... and the the animal welfare people... the animal and plant health and inspection service (APHIS) part of the USDA sets the rules for how big these tanks must be and yet they walk away from it instead of at least enforcing it?

("...Lolita is approximately 21 feet long and 7,000 pounds. Her tank is 20 feet deep at the deepest point and a mere 12 feet deep around the edges. The pool is only 35 feet wide.").

I mean there are so many layers to the cruelty here it is despicable.

Do you have any idea - this retirement plan which is posted and in such detail... is anyone listening?

I'll do what i'm sure you have done and call / email every single contact on there but man... utterly heartbreaking.

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On a lighter note... love is blind.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ocks-wild.html
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Old 01-23-2013, 08:09 AM
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... and the the animal welfare people... the animal and plant health and inspection service (APHIS) part of the USDA sets the rules for how big these tanks must be and yet they walk away from it instead of at least enforcing it?

("...Lolita is approximately 21 feet long and 7,000 pounds. Her tank is 20 feet deep at the deepest point and a mere 12 feet deep around the edges. The pool is only 35 feet wide.").

I mean there are so many layers to the cruelty here it is despicable.

Do you have any idea - this retirement plan which is posted and in such detail... is anyone listening?

I'll do what i'm sure you have done and call / email every single contact on there but man... utterly heartbreaking.

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On a lighter note... love is blind.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ocks-wild.html
It is sad that an institution, who declares to be a leader in marine education, would ignore the offers to transition Lolita to a better life. The only explanation that most can come up with is the amount of money they are making from the "see a killer whale perform with dolphins" show. I couldn't even watch the video of how these animals were captured.

Thanks for taking action.
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Old 01-23-2013, 12:38 PM
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It is sad that an institution, who declares to be a leader in marine education, would ignore the offers to transition Lolita to a better life. The only explanation that most can come up with is the amount of money they are making from the "see a killer whale perform with dolphins" show. I couldn't even watch the video of how these animals were captured.

Thanks for taking action.
Honestly? I can't watch those either.

Who does their pr? Same geniuses as racing? The answer stares them in the face.

This could be the great event of the year.

They announce they will be closing down, have a nationwide contest... you know like "best improvement idea" or something and get it out there in the schools... (give the winner a trip for the reopening)...

Annonce that they will take the lead, they will set Lolita free, start marketing the route (aka the space shuttle Endeavours trek through LA), selling I don't know banners etc. for a minimum $10. donation...

I have a friend who, every time we get together, we try to come up with stuff.

My last idea was since McDonalds now lists their calories, etc. (I don't eat that crap, for the record!) they should have shiny new whatever the things are called that tell you what you've ordered and the amount... that info should show up there so it's right in front of you.

She disagreed, saying no it will make people stop eating it.

No it won't! If you're in a drive thru and that's what you want you WILL order it. At most maybe change the fries from large to medium or something, right?

But if that is what you're there for no it won't.

BUT it will make them look like the first fast food company to really care lol. It it marketing.

Same thing here.This goes on and on and on and so change it, set the poor thing free BUT do it with pizzazz... rasie and spend money, improve the whole place, make it the premiere attractoin AND the one that is kind and beneficial for sea creatures.

I mean there has got to be a way.

It's frustrating and it's like the Wise Dan thread all over again. Why is marketing so difficult for some to understand?

Set her free and make it a huge national event.

This would work. Everyone benefits.

(THis of course because obviously they lack souls and heart and need to have some profit from doing what is right).

Sighty too bad we can't go down there ourselves and do it huh?
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Old 01-27-2013, 07:53 PM
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The United States will support proposals at CoP16 to restrict unsustainable levels of international trade on manta rays and five shark species--porbeagle, scalloped hammerhead, great hammerhead, smooth hammerhead, and oceanic whitetip. Populations of the five shark species are declining because of demand for fins for food products such as soup and medicine, while manta rays are being overharvested to meet demand for their gill plates.
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Thought this thread was going to be about Indian Food:


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I was surprised at the mention of manta rays needing protection, so i looked up stories to explain the demand. Yet another'tonic' demand (the gill plates are what they want) located in asia, one with no scientific basis, no medicinal qualities-reminds me of the demand for rhino horn.
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I was surprised at the mention of manta rays needing protection, so i looked up stories to explain the demand. Yet another'tonic' demand (the gill plates are what they want) located in asia, one with no scientific basis, no medicinal qualities-reminds me of the demand for rhino horn.
and tiger parts...

If anyone is interested, this is on the Discovery Channel tonight and also discusses what the WWF is doing to help stop wildlife crime, you can also read more here: http://wwf.panda.org/ :

Extreme Smuggling: Animals - airing 1/28 at 8:00PM ET/PT

In this episode, enter the cruel and clandestine world of illegal wildlife trafficking, where millions of people pay big bucks for rare and exotic animals. Six out of every ten households in the United States owns a pet, but there is a dark side to the exotic pet trade: endangerment and extinction of species, irresponsible ownership and the spread of animal-borne diseases. The trafficking and smuggling of exotic and endangered wildlife is a booming black market business estimated to reel in an excess of ten billion dollars annually. Traffickers go to extremes from carrying live animals under their clothes to concealing millions of dollar's worth of ivory in hidden panels inside shipping containers. Watch undercover surveillance of the largest seizure of animals in American history, a restaurant raid in Cambodia and footage of shocking airport confiscations.

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Horrific.
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Old 01-07-2013, 02:44 AM
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Beauty:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5zSWp1PRQc


(I had to post this but don't want to constantly be bumping up this thread).
Horror:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...Environment%29

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Old 01-17-2013, 10:52 PM
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For anyone who is so inclined... petition to ask HIlton to stop serving shark fin soup in their Far East restaurants (their Dept. of Corporate Responsibility is currently rewiewing the issue).

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/t...hark-fin-soup/

On the opposition to the ban in Calgary...

http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/Op...+Herald+-+News)

HK...

http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/a...-fin-hong-kong

Belated happy new year to the sharks.
From California, with love...

http://www.marinij.com/tiburonbelved...g-ban-that-had

Some (actually very sweet) pics of students demonstrating in hk...

http://www.alexhoffordphotography.com/node/2397
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Old 01-18-2013, 07:59 AM
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Thanks for the link to the petition!


The east coast is (finally) catching up with the ban. Unfortunately VA (aka dumbest state evah) introduced a bill last year banning the sale and possession of shark fin, but it never made it out of committee. I wrote the sponsor of that bill to see if he would reintroduce the bill and never heard back from him...

Maryland has an active bill for this legislative section and a search of other states can be performed here if anyone is interested in writing in their support:

http://www.bornfreeusa.org/b4_legislation.php
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I will be contacting Hilton Honors as well....
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a slice of cake that weighs a pound?!?! good god.
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