Baffert responds to criticism over Tweebster

[trenchcoatmafia1]

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/01/sp...uthanized.html

only 2 public workouts since his last race on Oct 21st

[Calzone Lord]

The idea of dropping a horse sharply in class "to boost the confidence" is a whole lot of trainer speak.

Claiming these horses is like trying to catch a falling knife ... they normally continue to see a form decline unless some physical issue gets addressed. Occasionally, you'll see someone will catch the handle and be rewarded when the form comes back around. Normally though, you're going to end up getting at least some blade.

Tweebster had been on a steady decline down the class ladder since he was competitive in Graded Stakes races at around this time last year.

It was one supposed "confidence booster" after another if you fall for the trainer speak ... in reality, the horses form was steadily deteriorating and he was losing a step all the time.

Baffert, for the most part, puts horses where they belong on paper. Based on recent efforts, I think spotting Tweebster for $12,500 was very appropriate and consistent with how he places horses ... however, Tweebster is a two-turn horse and cutting him back to a sprint over the wet track might have been a little more demanding race for him than some of his recent slow paced routes.

He obvious had some issues, but he was sound enough to at least complete the race and the problem seemed to occur while he was pulling up.

Even though I don't agree with what Baffert said ... this breakdown would not have got any attention at all if the horse wasn't trained by Baffert.

[RockHardTen1985]

Horses break down daily. Its a shitty part of the game we all love. Does every trainer release a public apology? Baffert is the best trainer in the world, lets give him a break.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

he really crushed on breeders cup day 1 and 2

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Horses break down daily. Its a shitty part of the game we all love. Does every trainer release a public apology? Baffert is the best trainer in the world, lets give him a break.

I rest my case.

[Rudeboyelvis]

The horse was completely mismanaged - I guess this was the owners doing, but he was always in over his head. He was a glorified 30-40k claimer that would occasionally hit the board in bad west coast graded races - but hadn't won a race in over 2 years.
What did seem odd was that his preferred surface, Hollywood Park, was completely ignored this fall (possibly due to issues) and brought back over an off SA track.

I completely agree that if it was any other trainer, there wouldn't have been a mention.

But to infer that this horse was "stakes caliber" dropping, while technically accurate, wasn't really at all the case.

There was a similar horse that Baffert dropped to 12.5 claimer (after a long layoff and winning with a very high beyer speed figure in an ALW the race before) last year at Santa Anita that won and was claimed by Mark Glatt that won a couple of races for him. I believe the horse's name is Solar Rocket

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Horses break down daily. Its a shitty part of the game we all love. Does every trainer release a public apology? Baffert is the best trainer in the world, lets give him a break.

Now that's funny!! Everything Baffert does is about Bob. it's almost never about the horse. What I can't understand is some owners want him as their trainer, the love of money before everything else can't be a good place to live.....

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

The idea of dropping a horse sharply in class "to boost the confidence" is a whole lot of trainer speak.

Claiming these horses is like trying to catch a falling knife ... they normally continue to see a form decline unless some physical issue gets addressed. Occasionally, you'll see someone will catch the handle and be rewarded when the form comes back around. Normally though, you're going to end up getting at least some blade.

Tweebster had been on a steady decline down the class ladder since he was competitive in Graded Stakes races at around this time last year.

It was one supposed "confidence booster" after another if you fall for the trainer speak ... in reality, the horses form was steadily deteriorating and he was losing a step all the time.

Baffert, for the most part, puts horses where they belong on paper. Based on recent efforts, I think spotting Tweebster for $12,500 was very appropriate and consistent with how he places horses ... however, Tweebster is a two-turn horse and cutting him back to a sprint over the wet track might have been a little more demanding race for him than some of his recent slow paced routes.

He obvious had some issues, but he was sound enough to at least complete the race and the problem seemed to occur while he was pulling up.

Even though I don't agree with what Baffert said ... this breakdown would not have got any attention at all if the horse wasn't trained by Baffert.

agree with all of it. had the horse been claimed, i doubt he'd have minded. an odd spot? perhaps. but hindsight is called that for a reason. we'd all go back and change decisions if we could.