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[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

I can't believe I am already at the point where I'm longing for the old days of like two years ago when coming into a race off an 8 week layoff was a concern rather than an advantage.

It's a long year and the bigger races are mostly later in the year. No reason to be overly aggressive early in the season.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

It's a long year and the bigger races are mostly later in the year. No reason to be overly aggressive early in the season.

The Santa Anita schedule is setup though so that this is a big time of the year. I'd think Hollywood Derby, Malibu, Strub or Sunshine Millions, Big Cap would be a reasonable campaign and at that point you could give him a freshening for a couple months to get him ready for the bigger races later in the year. Wasn't part of the reason they skipped the big 3yo races with him over the summer so that he'd be fresh after the Classic for the Strub series?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

The Santa Anita schedule is setup though so that this is a big time of the year. I'd think Hollywood Derby, Malibu, Strub or Sunshine Millions, Big Cap would be a reasonable campaign and at that point you could give him a freshening for a couple months to get him ready for the bigger races later in the year. Wasn't part of the reason they skipped the big 3yo races with him over the summer so that he'd be fresh after the Classic for the Strub series?

I thought he had some issues but not sure.

Brother Derek feels like a good Met Mile horse if things go well. That's certainly a very big race to win.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I thought he had some issues but not sure.

Brother Derek feels like a good Met Mile horse if things go well. That's certainly a very big race to win.

Met Mile is a race that I would point for with him. That race seems perfect.

[King Glorious]

I'm of the belief that Brother Derek would get crushed in the Malibu. He's got front running speed but it's route speed. I don't think he'd stand up to sprinters going 7f. I think the Hollywood Derby is a good option. It's worth a lot of money and the distance will be perfect for him. He'll be the one to catch and I could see him pulling Lava Man or Hawkster type of race out there. If he loses, he could always come back in the San Fernando. I'd be looking at San Fernando, Sunshine Millions, Big Cap.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I'm of the belief that Brother Derek would get crushed in the Malibu. He's got front running speed but it's route speed. I don't think he'd stand up to sprinters going 7f. I think the Hollywood Derby is a good option. It's worth a lot of money and the distance will be perfect for him. He'll be the one to catch and I could see him pulling Lava Man or Hawkster type of race out there. If he loses, he could always come back in the San Fernando. I'd be looking at San Fernando, Sunshine Millions, Big Cap.

Is there early odds available for the Malibu? Cause if so, after this post, I'm tapping out!

If Brother Derek's connections come to this board it's " Malibu or bust Baby! "

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Is there early odds available for the Malibu? Cause if so, after this post, I'm tapping out!

If Brother Derek's connections come to this board it's " Malibu or bust Baby! "

Let me ammend this a little. Unless he shows a new side to him, being able to win without having control of the pace, I don't think he'd be competitive in the Malibu. I think there is no shot at him winning it using his usual style and until I see him win with another style, I wouldn't pick him to be able to do it in a race like the Malibu.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Let me ammend this a little. Unless he shows a new side to him, being able to win without having control of the pace, I don't think he'd be competitive in the Malibu. I think there is no shot at him winning it using his usual style and until I see him win with another style, I wouldn't pick him to be able to do it in a race like the Malibu.

While he has won sitting just off the pace in the past, his true ability to rate is probably a reasonable question, but the turnback to the Malibu would be perfect. Granted he was facing a weaker bunch than Brother Derek rates to face but Rock Hard Ten was able to win the Malibu off a layoff and turnback.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

While he has won sitting just off the pace in the past, his true ability to rate is probably a reasonable question, but the turnback to the Malibu would be perfect. Granted he was facing a weaker bunch than Brother Derek rates to face but Rock Hard Ten was able to win the Malibu off a layoff and turnback.

Not only was Rock Hard Ten a better horse, that group of horses he beat was disgustingly slow...maybe the worst group I've vere seen out there...they were horribly SLLOOOOOWWWW

I actually liked the Rock in that race due to how bad of a group he was up against - and thas saying alot for me because that is everything I believe against betting true routers in a sprint graded stakes race....

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

While he has won sitting just off the pace in the past, his true ability to rate is probably a reasonable question, but the turnback to the Malibu would be perfect. Granted he was facing a weaker bunch than Brother Derek rates to face but Rock Hard Ten was able to win the Malibu off a layoff and turnback.

It's not the layoff of the turnback in distance that bother me with Brother Derek at all. Just the speed and distance. I actually like horses turning back in distance when they are stalkers or closers.

Interestingly, u brought up Rock Hard Ten. I wonder if anyone remembers the horse that ran second in his Malibu? None other than Lava Man.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Dixie Porter

As far as I REMEMBER Bobby had no dialouge with Len. It was Preston King and myself.

I've had it. This goes back to my saying "everything I post on here can easilly be DOCUMENTED".

I WILL NO LONGER reply to a "hopeless wannabee" that doesn't know which end of a horse eats, and furthermore comes out with downright LIES that are difficult to refute on an internert board. All the stuff you allude to is pure BS. Not ONCE have you EVER verified ANYTHING. Furthermore no one with a brain could be posibly interested in the "heresay" you waste Steve's bandwidth on.

You're nothing but a two bit horse player posing as someone who has something to do with the racing game.

I shall now continue to make a total imbecile out of you post by post untill I leave for Vail after the bowls.

Oh Dicksie, you're the best. You don't need no stinking documentation ( though even one small shred of all this so called evidence would be appreciated from those few silly enough not to take everything you say at face value ). You are the greatest self-proclaimed person in the history of racing...if not the entire history of gambling. Dude....you were on the plane to Israel with Meyer Lansky when he was refused sanctuary in Israel!!!!!!!!! I mean, come on, it's hard to believe the Stones haven't written a song about YOU ( or at the very least....Carly Simon ).

And furthermore, let's be honest, we're all imbeciles, babe, it's a wonder we still know how to breath.

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I'm of the belief that Brother Derek would get crushed in the Malibu. He's got front running speed but it's route speed. I don't think he'd stand up to sprinters going 7f.

I get that feeling too....two words - Cat Thief