Horrific Newtown, CT school shooting

Thanks.

But really the storyline changes daily. Doesn't seem to matter that the media is being irresponsible. What matters is people see through it. Cable news ratings are plummeting...mainly because heartland America doesn't want to come home after a hard days work...oh who am I kidding? Most people who watch cable news don't work, and if they do work it's more than likely they're a barista or work in some hipster health food store that serves gmo.

What amazes me is how the same media can still manipulate the population to agree and support their agenda. You know, there was a time in this country when investigative reporting and ethical standards in journalism mattered somewhat. Why would any sane American want to give a government anything? Especially one that can't even decide on a budget, much less balance one. A government that selectively shows their outrage on tragedies. A government that didn't have multiple press conferences and attend religious services of the victims of drone strikes that we're responsible for as a country.

My reasoning why they didn't? They DON'T CARE!! There is nothing to gain by mourning the death of innocent men, women and children if they aren't American. In fact, we still deny any responsibility for the death of these people.

So knowing this, why would you want to give up your right to defend yourself, family, and property and hand everything that could protect you to an irresponsible government?

Sure semi-autos have been banned before. But when has a bureaucrat, once they've banned a certain type of gun, stopped pursuing all of them? A country of significance, not one of the small fufu countries that doesn't have a 5th world country next door.

Do you really think that a government in a country where just about every chronic health condition has skyrocketed the past 20 years really cares about our well being? Whatever. Keep shining, you cray cray diamond.

The storyline today seems to be the shooter basically didn't exist the past 3 years.

How can you not be on the internet? No trail? YOU REALLY BELIEVE THIS S.HIT?

Come on be smarter than this, people. For some of you I know that's an impossibility but most of you know better. It doesn't add up.

Notice how the picture they keep showing is of a child. This murderer is 20 years old. The Trayvon Martin trick...to get feels out of you. Mind/Control System.

It's real.

[Danzig]

Welcome back coach. Good to see ya.

[Dahoss]

No one is trying to take away your liberties or your right to defend yourself. I haven't seen anyone say that in any post on the subject.

No one is for giving up our rights to defend ourselves. The argument is about semi automatic rifles. We don't need them IMO. Are handguns not enough to defend yourself?

What are you defending yourself against that you need a semi automatic weapon?

Originally Posted by Dahoss

No one is trying to take away your liberties or your right to defend yourself. I haven't seen anyone say that in any post on the subject.

No one is for giving up our rights to defend ourselves. The argument is about semi automatic rifles. We don't need them IMO. Are handguns not enough to defend yourself?

What are you defending yourself against that you need a semi automatic weapon?

It's also about ending gun shows where average americans make their living. But f.uck those people and their livelihood.

Tell you what, Hoss. When the government solves the debt problem, the jobs problem, the health care problem, the infrastructure problem, the spies in our government problem, the nuclear weapons problem, the border problem, etc. then I'll talk about giving up my rights that the founders made possible.

All of your reasoning is not important. If you don't like guns don't buy one. A gun ban in a country with an open border to our neighbor that has some of the most evil drug cartels on earth is ridiculous.

They are playing with your emotions and it is clouding your reasoning. The majority of these shooters didn't have registered guns. They were using them illegally. A gun ban is not going to take the semi-autos out of the criminals hand.

No pie chart, statistic, or liberal talking point will change that fact. Think a criminal won't take advantage of the citizens if he has a cache of semi-autos and he knows you have a pea shooter? PPPPPPFFFFFFFFFFFT

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

It's also about ending gun shows where average americans make their living. But f.uck those people and their livelihood.

Tell you what, Hoss. When the government solves the debt problem, the jobs problem, the health care problem, the infrastructure problem, the spies in our government problem, the nuclear weapons problem, the border problem, etc. then I'll talk about giving up my rights that the founders made possible.

All of your reasoning is not important. If you don't like guns don't buy one. A gun ban in a country with an open border to our neighbor that has some of the most evil drug cartels on earth is ridiculous.

They are playing with your emotions and it is clouding your reasoning. The majority of these shooters didn't have registered guns. They were using them illegally. A gun ban is not going to take the semi-autos out of the criminals hand.

No pie chart, statistic, or liberal talking point will change that fact. Think a criminal won't take advantage of the citizens if he has a cache of semi-autos and he knows you have a pea shooter? PPPPPPFFFFFFFFFFFT

Couldn't agree more. And welcome back Coach.

Remember emo boy in Portland that stole a friends gun and went on that rampage in the mall?

That story has seemed to drop completely off the state-run media news reel. I believe why it did is because an armed citizen brandished his weapon, the shooter saw him and like the chicken sh.it he was took his own life. That guy is a hero IMO.
They don't want good news that counters their agenda. It's sinister.

Edit: Said the guy killed the shooter. He didn't. Here is the story...

http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/2...n-mall-shooter

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

It's also about ending gun shows where average americans make their living. But f.uck those people and their livelihood.

Tell you what, Hoss. When the government solves the debt problem, the jobs problem, the health care problem, the infrastructure problem, the spies in our government problem, the nuclear weapons problem, the border problem, etc. then I'll talk about giving up my rights that the founders made possible.

All of your reasoning is not important. If you don't like guns don't buy one. A gun ban in a country with an open border to our neighbor that has some of the most evil drug cartels on earth is ridiculous.

They are playing with your emotions and it is clouding your reasoning. The majority of these shooters didn't have registered guns. They were using them illegally. A gun ban is not going to take the semi-autos out of the criminals hand.

No pie chart, statistic, or liberal talking point will change that fact. Think a criminal won't take advantage of the citizens if he has a cache of semi-autos and he knows you have a pea shooter? PPPPPPFFFFFFFFFFFT

My reasoning isn't important...but your first argument is about people losing jobs (maybe) because a ban on semi automatic rifles (might) end gun shows? Come on, you're just giving me the conservative talking points, while talking around my points.

I realize a ban won't stop crime with semi automatic weapons. But I'm still waiting for someone...anyone to give me a reasonable explanation why they need a semi automatic weapon.

Sorry, I doubt our founding fathers could see this far into the future and thought people would have access to these kinds of guns. They realized they were imperfect, which is why we have amendments. (I stole that from the movie With Honors.)

Originally Posted by Dahoss

My reasoning isn't important...but your first argument is about people losing jobs (maybe) because a ban on semi automatic rifles (might) end gun shows? Come on, you're just giving me the conservative talking points, while talking around my points.

I realize a ban won't stop crime with semi automatic weapons. But I'm still waiting for someone...anyone to give me a reasonable explanation why they need a semi automatic weapon.

Sorry, I doubt our founding fathers could see this far into the future and thought people would have access to these kinds of guns. They realized they were imperfect, which is why we have amendments. (I stole that from the movie With Honors.)

So since I used a talking point it's o.k. to counter the libtard talking point that the founding fathers didn't have vision, didn't expect society and technology to advance, therefore the 2nd amendment is flawed.

Sure, Hossy. Which talking point is more ridiculous? Hmm?

People will lose their jobs and definitely their income will decline. That's a fact. An absolute fact backed by the law of averages. Do I need to list the reasons why? I can go balls deep on a conservative talking point if need be.

Quite frankly the assumption that our founding fathers didn't have vision and belief in progress, the same ones who crossed an ocean for the chance at freedom, is insulting to my intelligence.

For shame. You should get an autographed picture of Piers Morgan for that one.

Of course people shouldn't have big bad weapons. But real life isn't a f.ucking Disney movie and sometimes life doesn't have a happy ending...because asian massage parlors are being shut down.

[Dahoss]

So you thought our founding fathers envisioned the world as it is today? People shooting up malls and schools with semi automatic weapons? Really? They were smart, but not that smart.

Sorry, we'll just agree to disagree on this.

People will lose their jobs and income will decline if we shut tracks down (which I happen to agree with your point of view) but you are okay with that. But you're concerned about the possible income loss by gun dealers if we ban semi automatic rifles?

I don't get it.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Quite frankly the assumption that our founding fathers didn't have vision and belief in progress, the same ones who crossed an ocean for the chance at freedom, is insulting to my intelligence.

Just to clarify, which founding fathers do you think crossed an ocean for the chance at freedom? Alexander Hamilton was born on an island in the Caribbean, so maybe you are talking about him. The rest of the guys people usually refer to as "founding fathers" were all born in the thirteen colonies so I'm not sure what you're talking about.
Of course, if you are the only one reading "a history book that isn't state run," maybe you are privy to special information that the rest of us don't have.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

But I'm still waiting for someone...anyone to give me a reasonable explanation why they need a semi automatic weapon.

Hoss, I'm still waiting for someone from the government to give me one reasonable explanation why the DHS and the SSA need to stockpile almost 2 BILLION rounds of hollow point ammunition:


http://www.lookintoit.org/DHS-Prepar...an-People.html

A coincidence I'm sure that this is never mentioned on the state-run media.

Meanwhile, they just arrested two guys in Tampa for planning to set off a bomb in NYC in retaliation for the 100's if not 1,000's of innocent children killed in front of their parents, by this presidents illegal drone war.

{looking for a link, was reported on the news once this morning and has mysteriously disappeared from their scroll on-line}

Not a tear shed by the American people for these kids or their families.