Jilver Chamafi

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by tabs

Yup, here's what I had to say regarding Rajiv yesterday in the selections thread!

Maragh, my least favorite jock who rides some nice horses! I will never understand why any outfit at "major tracks" use this guy.... I've been on the losing end of his notorious "bad rides" costing me thousands......

I don't think he watches replays intelligently enough nor does he seem to understand race setups or the abilities of the horse he's riding let alone the other horses in the race imo....

He's a jockey, thus unable to fathom strategy beyond that of a preschooler.

With jockeys, it's just a matter of degree of dumbness.

[tabs]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

He's a jockey, thus unable to fathom strategy beyond that of a preschooler.

With jockeys, it's just a matter of degree of dumbness.

I’d appreciate if someone could give an explanation why Rajiv gets the quality of mounts that he does!!

His agent is one heck of a salesmen.....

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by tabs

I’d appreciate if someone could give an explanation why Rajiv gets the quality of mounts that he does!!

His agent is one heck of a salesmen.....

I don't know, but why did Chris McCarron get such awesome mounts when he clearly overthought everything and repeated his same mistakes for about ten years.

To his credit, he did eventually figure out that strangling the speed out of a horse in a route race never works.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I don't know, but why did Chris McCarron get such awesome mounts when he clearly overthought everything and repeated his same mistakes for about ten years.

To his credit, he did eventually figure out that strangling the speed out of a horse in a route race never works.

It appears he has taught the new jocks his same bad mistakes. Route races in this country are a joke at this point, with the way they are being ridden.

It's like everyone rides like it's the first meet at Keeneland, where everything was a 1/4 mile dash to the finish. Surface doesn't matter. It's just one grab after grab.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

It appears he has taught the new jocks his same bad mistakes. Route races in this country are a joke at this point, with the way they are being ridden.

It's like everyone rides like it's the first meet at Keeneland, where everything was a 1/4 mile dash to the finish. Surface doesn't matter. It's just one grab after grab.

Yeah man.

I'm really not prone to casting stereotypes about, but man, seriously, jockeys are the most unthinking people ever.

[RockHardTen1985]

I get the whole grab thing. It happens a lot. A lot in NY. Its not everyone though. JV never grabs. He sends when its time to send. Maybe Doug can post JV stats like he did Maragh. I still take him over Ramon. His ride in the 6th Saturday was great. His ride at Saratoga on THAS was even better.

[Calzone Lord]

Johnny V's mounts (almost a thousand of them) have yielded a 27.5% loss per every dollar bet on them over the last 12 months.





Ramon yields a 14% loss. He's still profitable in turf races (barely)




From 2001 to 2009, Ramon had a profit in turf route races 8 out of 9 years, and a giant profit over that combined 9 year stretch of time.

In his case, it's not that he's declining as a jockey, it's more his value as a jockey to a bettor is declining because his reputation has grown so much. His value stats are sh!t now compared to what they were 10 years ago before he had people scores of people looking to bet him almost blindly.