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Old 11-12-2012, 04:06 PM
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anyone that signs a pledge dictating how they will act regardless of circumstances has abdicated their responsibility as a legislator and has no business in any legislative body.

that said, norquist has long been a voice of reason in the conservative movement on immigration reform. i'm torn between his long term efforts to "stangle government in it's cradle" and his being one of the few thoughtful conservative voices on immigration BEFORE the election.

i see that sean hannity's position suddenly "evolved" after 11-6 and he now supports comprehensive immigration reform that would include a path to citizenship. he joins other's who now at least talk as if they've figured out that driving 70% of hispanic voters into the democratic column isn't a sustainable path for republican's.

Oh my, off the reservation...soon as Roger Ailes hears that Hannity will join Glenn Beck wherever he is..
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Old 11-12-2012, 04:39 PM
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Obama won 8 of the 10 wealthiest counties in the country (for 1% of the overall vote).

Obama's win was a landslide, Romney got less than 48% of the vote. Romney got less votes than Kerry did losing to Bush in 2004.

Blacks are only about 11-15% of voters. Yes, Obama won blacks. And every other demographic except old white men. But Obama won plenty of white men.

Obama won among the largest demographic group of all, who came out in record numbers: women. Even Republican women.

The Republican party, via Romney, told 47% of the country that they wouldn't take responsibility for their lives and are moochers - and to stand by that statement, to blame that for his electoral loss - well, keep doing that and continue Republican irrelevancy forever.

Romney didn't "lose" - Obama won. By superior ground game, policies, message, and accomplishment.
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Old 11-12-2012, 05:38 PM
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Obama won 8 of the 10 wealthiest counties in the country (for 1% of the overall vote).

Obama's win was a landslide, Romney got less than 48% of the vote. Romney got less votes than Kerry did losing to Bush in 2004.

Blacks are only about 11-15% of voters. Yes, Obama won blacks. And every other demographic except old white men. But Obama won plenty of white men.

Obama won among the largest demographic group of all, who came out in record numbers: women. Even Republican women.

The Republican party, via Romney, told 47% of the country that they wouldn't take responsibility for their lives and are moochers - and to stand by that statement, to blame that for his electoral loss - well, keep doing that and continue Republican irrelevancy forever.

Romney didn't "lose" - Obama won. By superior ground game, policies, message, and accomplishment.
"Obama won 8 of the 10 wealthiest counties in the country"

and yet republicans will continue to fall on the sword to protect those same people (at least 50% of whom voted democratic) from paying a marginally higher income tax rate.

it's a head scratcher.
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Old 11-13-2012, 05:54 PM
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"Obama won 8 of the 10 wealthiest counties in the country"

and yet republicans will continue to fall on the sword to protect those same people (at least 50% of whom voted democratic) from paying a marginally higher income tax rate.

it's a head scratcher.
If I am not mistaken, 5 or 6 of these counties are in Md and/or Va adjacent to Washington DC, inhabited by government workers. More "Free Stuff."
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Old 11-13-2012, 06:11 PM
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If I am not mistaken, 5 or 6 of these counties are in Md and/or Va adjacent to Washington DC, inhabited by government workers. More "Free Stuff."
two. fairfax and louden county are in nova. you'll have to come up with another excuse for the other six.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/obama-...154837437.html

and since the "free stuff" meme worked out so well, you should definetly keep pounding away at that winner.
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Old 11-13-2012, 06:18 PM
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government workers= free stuff?
wow, i'll let my son, a sailor, know that he's not actually earning any of his benefits or pay.

by the by, most govt workers can't afford posh digs.
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Old 11-13-2012, 08:16 PM
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"free stuff" ... dang, my dogs are sitting up, screaming, at the Lee Atwater dog whistle.

Look at the polling, folks. The "real" polling that was accurate. Romney never had a chance. He got a slight bump after the first debate, that faded quickly. Conservatives were taken in by listening to their "guts" and bad polling data. I felt sorry for them, when I realized they really, really did expect a Romney win. They were mislead by bad data and guys like Dick Morris. Obama had this won 2 months ago, and the hurricane didn't do anything.
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Old 11-15-2012, 05:48 AM
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government workers= free stuff?
wow, i'll let my son, a sailor, know that he's not actually earning any of his benefits or pay.

by the by, most govt workers can't afford posh digs.
When I returned from Vietnam in 1969 and went job hunting, I found out quickly that there were not any. The most frustrating period of my life at the time. A college graduate, decorated military officer and it did not matter, jobs were hard to find.
Finding employment in the public sector was not an option due to the low pay scale at the time. Recent government studies have shown that the public sector pay scales have run away and hid from those in the private sector. In fact government employees can now "afford those digs."
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Old 11-12-2012, 10:50 PM
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Romney didn't "lose" - Obama won. By superior ground game, policies, message, and accomplishment.

Add a perfectly timed hurricane that presented the ideal opportunity for the "Big O" to appear effective and concerned about those harmed and suffering.....with a dose of paranoia to "ration the fuel" of a conspiracy about election fraud in swing states due to software designed and owned by a Romney company to recreate the hanging chad phenomena by ignoring votes of certain candidates, so that the undecided, who are really the champion procrastinators of the voting world with the effect of a popular fat guy Gov. from Jersey focusing the media on what the Big "O" got right rather than a 4 star General CIA director trying to outkick his coverage and we have enough of a bump and grind for "four more years"........timing my friends is still everything in life!!

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Romney didn't "lose" - Obama won. By superior ground game, policies, message, and accomplishment.

Add a perfectly timed hurricane that presented the ideal opportunity for the "Big O" to appear effective and concerned about those harmed and suffering.....with a dose of paranoia to "ration the fuel" of a conspiracy about election fraud in swing states due to software designed and owned by a Romney company to recreate the hanging chad phenomena by ignoring votes of certain candidates, so that the undecided, who are really the champion procrastinators of the voting world with the effect of a popular fat guy Gov. from Jersey focusing the media on what the Big "O" got right rather than a 4 star General CIA director trying to outkick his coverage and we have enough of a bump and grind for "four more years"........timing my friends is still everything in life!!
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