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Old 11-06-2012, 09:55 AM
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Hernandez Jr. had a great ride on Fort Larned. Never in a million years would I predict that he would win any Breeders Cup race...much less the classic.

Rosie Napravnik won too. Furthering the fact that you could put a trained monkey on a horse and they could win a Grade 1. Just comes down to not making mistakes and that is random as can be with these athletes.
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Old 11-06-2012, 09:59 AM
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Velazquez had sat an inside trip almost the entire race. If he stays inside, he runs down Little Mike.
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Old 11-06-2012, 10:01 AM
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Velazquez had sat an inside trip almost the entire race. If he stays inside, he runs down Little Mike.
Actually, if he got outside of Little Mike sooner, he would have won. He would have been second best, but he would have won nonetheless.
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Old 11-06-2012, 10:27 AM
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Velazquez had sat an inside trip almost the entire race. If he stays inside, he runs down Little Mike.

it was that slight little delay when he was gonna try to beat him up the rail, before he switched out. that absolutely cost him the race. he would have rolled by.

Mike Smith on Atigun caused the most universal screaming of people all over the country saying in harmony "what the **** is he doing ? what makes it worse is that they ran away a little at first almost as if to say just sit there ya mook. But no, he was determined to **** it up. Would love to know one thing. WHY ? Why would you just not sit there in perfect position? What were you possibly thinking?

I'm not a bad ride complainer either.
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Old 11-06-2012, 10:34 AM
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Btw the 4f and 6f Fort Larned simply ran the whole field into the ground except for MMM...a 23.6 quarter put em all under stress down the backside.
Nice job by Hernandez to take advantage of his position and further pressure the field.
Had he slowed it down and tried to conserve Larned's energy he may have let the whole field back into the race. Then he's got 3 or 4 bearing down on him instead of just MMM
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Old 11-06-2012, 12:32 PM
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it was that slight little delay when he was gonna try to beat him up the rail, before he switched out. that absolutely cost him the race. he would have rolled by.
No delay, according to the headon. He was continually whipping with the right hand, with plenty of room on the inside. He then decided to stop whipping, take a hold, come around, then go back to whipping. Sure, he wins if he comes out a lot earlier; but he also wins if he just continues riding.
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Old 11-06-2012, 01:20 PM
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No delay, according to the headon. He was continually whipping with the right hand, with plenty of room on the inside. He then decided to stop whipping, take a hold, come around, then go back to whipping. Sure, he wins if he comes out a lot earlier; but he also wins if he just continues riding.
That's because Johnny is a great rider and knew he wasn't moving forward inside, or passing Little Mike there, and angled him outside where he would gain. The only problem was he couldn't angle out in time. Regardless, overall he got a great trip, and was second best. Even if he had angled out sooner, and won, he wouldn't have run the best race.
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Old 11-06-2012, 05:20 PM
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That's because Johnny is a great rider and knew he wasn't moving forward inside, or passing Little Mike there, and angled him outside where he would gain. The only problem was he couldn't angle out in time. Regardless, overall he got a great trip, and was second best. Even if he had angled out sooner, and won, he wouldn't have run the best race.

didn't angle out in time, not couldn't.....and might not have run the best race, but would have run the winning race. watch it again. Hesitation kills.




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Old 11-06-2012, 09:15 PM
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Bejarano has the top two worst rides,,,,Animal Kingdom and Game On Dude
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