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Old 10-18-2012, 02:46 PM
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Not even including the nose sticker, don't they have more expensive alternatives to lasix?

Is it really the only thing that stops bleeding?
Not legal things. Or I should say not legal to give during a time period that would be effective things.
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Old 10-18-2012, 02:59 PM
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Not legal things. Or I should say not legal to give during a time period that would be effective things.
In that case, it's a bad idea to run BC races without it. Hopefully the nose bands will work.
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Old 10-18-2012, 04:14 PM
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In that case, it's a bad idea to run BC races without it. Hopefully the nose bands will work.
Pre legalized lasix there were lots of pre-race "bleeder" shots that racetrack vets used to reduce bleeding. If anybody thinks that trainers are suddenly going to race on hay and oats for that kind of purse money you are dreaming. Probably a big sales increase in natural supplements this month. Euros probably will have an advantage as they have been dealing with no lasix and for sure they are not racing 100% on hay & oats.
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Old 10-18-2012, 04:30 PM
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Not legal things. Or I should say not legal to give during a time period that would be effective things.
Then why don't Euro horses start spewing blood all over without it. Lets be real here, there are other alternatives that will keep the majority of horses from bleeding. Further, you said yourself, top class 2yos are a lot less likely to bleed than old claimers. I already mentioned the report in Bloodhorse where hardly any horses that ran without it at Saratoga showed the slightest trace of EIPH.
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Old 10-18-2012, 07:02 PM
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Then why don't Euro horses start spewing blood all over without it. Lets be real here, there are other alternatives that will keep the majority of horses from bleeding. Further, you said yourself, top class 2yos are a lot less likely to bleed than old claimers. I already mentioned the report in Bloodhorse where hardly any horses that ran without it at Saratoga showed the slightest trace of EIPH.
What are you talking about? He asked a question and I answered it. There are other things that can be used to prevent bleeding but as I said none are currently legal to give in the timeframe that they would need to be given.

What do Euros have to do with anything that I said?
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Old 10-18-2012, 08:59 PM
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What are you talking about? He asked a question and I answered it. There are other things that can be used to prevent bleeding but as I said none are currently legal to give in the timeframe that they would need to be given.

What do Euros have to do with anything that I said?
OK, so you are only talking drugs then. That wasn't clear to me.
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