The Jets

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

The coaching reference is a great start. To say that Rex is a defensive minded coach is putting it mildly. He also had to endore a young inexpierenced cooridinator in his first 3 years. The Jets didn't even carry a veteran backup in his rookie year, someone for Sanchez to lean on and learn from.

The thing that boggles my mind is that they went to the AFC title game in his first two seasons (does that not count for anything). At times he struggled, but I can also remember him playing very well and leading them to some late 4th quarter victories. More importantly he played well in the playoffs. But that brings us to last season, where he struggled at times. But there were mitagating circumstances. There was a shortened trainning camp due to the lock-out. They didn't resign what seemed to be his favorite target in Braylon Edwards. On the flip side, Santonio Holmes cashed in, which seemed to change his entire attitude. And most importantly, the offensive line was not good (which affected their ability to run the ball and open up the passing game as well). All this lead to an 8-8 record and just missing the playoffs by one game. The three games that come to mind that cost them the spot would be the Broncos, Giants and the finale at Miami. I remember Sanchez being bad in Miami (the Holmes mutiny game), but they probably thought that they were already dead going into that one. The other two fall at the defense's feet. They let Tebow march down the field late in Denver. And then they had the Giants in a headlock and backed up in their own zone in a game they were controlling, then procedded to give up a 99 yard TD.

So instead of giving Sanchez a pass for one so-so season and making the team around him better, what do the do? They bring in another (lesser) QB, a new offensive cooridinator and try to totally flip the script, with no major upgrades on the offensive unit. It just all seems a little unfair. To make matters worse, the defense is not as good as it was a couple of season ago and they need Sanchez and the offense to score even more points. Unfortunately for Jets fans they are only 2 years removed from back to back trips to the AFC title game, and somehow this team seems to be on the decline and now needs to be overhauled.

Schotty had to go. I don't know how much better Sparano is, but he's no worse than that buffoon. Sanchez is not an incapable quarterback - people can credit the defense all they want for those playoff runs, but the dude has a 92 QB rating in the playoffs with 9 TD's and 3 INT. He played well and made big throws in every game, including the losses. The problem is the bad reads and sloppiness with the ball should be in the past by now, he's in his 4th year. But anyone who says he sucks and can't play doesn't watch the Jets.

It appears I'm in the minority of Jet fans, who always want to fire everybody after a loss, but I was extremely impressed with the game they played on Monday. They were severely undermanned against the best team in the NFL and stepped up again and again to make them play 60 minutes to win by 6 points. There were multiple times they could've laid down and died (after the easy opening drive and TD by Houston, after the INT return before halftime), but they made every big stop on defense and enough plays on offense to stay in the game. Sanchez's two INT's were unlucky and I don't think he made a single bad decision that game.

This team is missing a handful of pieces, but they're not devoid of talent. Having Stephen Hill and Dustin Keller back will help Sanchez tremendously, and I'm actually looking forward to the rest of the season to see what they can make of this crappy situation. If it's like the 49ers game, they're in deep trouble, but if it's like the Texans game, they're going to challenge for a playoff spot, even with no Revis or Holmes.

[Dahoss]

Jets are probably going to end up losing this game...but they have outplayed the Pats without a doubt in my mind.

Pats are a bad football team.

Sanchez needs this win.

Forgot that Hightower is on the Pats. That's almost not fair. If he stays healthy at Bama he's a top 10 pick.

[Dahoss]

So the guy in front of the play sees no penalty, but the guy 25 yards away called it?

[Dahoss]

While I don't think it makes them better. Time to bench Sanchez. The Stephen Hill drop is huge late, and not Sanchez's fault. But too many mistakes that he should not be making anymore.

The INT when Hill was wide open in the 2nd is just him not reading the defense. The sack after the fumble late in the 4th, could have been huge. He HAS to throw the ball away there. And then just take the sack at the end. Come on.

They are beat up, and not very good. But I'm pretty sure they are the best team in the AFC East, which is kind of sad.

The Pats are garbage this year.

[golfer]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

While I don't think it makes them better. Time to bench Sanchez. The Stephen Hill drop is huge late, and not Sanchez's fault. But too many mistakes that he should not be making anymore.

The INT when Hill was wide open in the 2nd is just him not reading the defense. The sack after the fumble late in the 4th, could have been huge. He HAS to throw the ball away there. And then just take the sack at the end. Come on.

They are beat up, and not very good. But I'm pretty sure they are the best team in the AFC East, which is kind of sad.

The Pats are garbage this year.

Originally, I couldn't believe he would take the sack instead of throwing it away late in the 4th, but I believe the intent was to force NE to use it's 2nd timeout, which they did. Of course that strategy was rendered meaningless when Brady marched down the field with ease to get in position for the tying FG.

Once again, I think the Jets need to decide if Sanchez is good enough to get them where they want to go for the next however many years. If he's not that guy, pull the plug now. The problem is, Sanchez doesn't suck. If he did, the decision would be a no-brainer. At times he was very good yesterday. At other times, he wasn't.
Still, with all that said, there is no reason Tebow and the Wildcat can't get more than a play every quarter or so? It is becoming very apparent that Sparano doesn't have the creativity needed to make Tebow a valuable, viable weapon.

And as far as Tebow starting, how much of the offense could he even run at this point? It would be potentially be a big step backwards, even with all the help he might get from above