Libya-Gate

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by phystech

And he should have had no reason to believe they would given Iraq had NEVER used WMD's before, right?

http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/iran/cw.htm

Who did they use them on?..The U.S.?
What threat were they to the us, they couldn't hit Isreal with their scud missles and they were only a few miles away...

And we can't seem to make up our minds on the enemy.

United States support for Iraq during the Iran–Iraq war.

Support from the U.S. for Iraq was not a secret and was frequently discussed in open session of the Senate and House of Representatives. On June 9, 1992, Ted Koppel reported on ABC's Nightline, "It is becoming increasingly clear that George Bush, operating largely behind the scenes throughout the 1980s, initiated and supported much of the financing, intelligence, and military help that built Saddam's Iraq into the power it became",[4] and "Reagan/Bush administrations permitted—and frequently encouraged—the flow of money, agricultural credits, dual-use technology, chemicals, and weapons to Iraq."[5]

Saddam Hussein donated large sums to various institutions in his campaign to curry favour with the United States. He was made an honorary citizen of Detroit in 1980.

And remember this..

Iran–Contra affair...we sold arms to IRAN, now they are our worst enemy..

Can't seem to make up our mind on whose the enemy..

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by bigrun

Who did they use them on?..The U.S.?
What threat were they to the us, they couldn't hit Isreal with their scud missles and they were only a few miles away...

And we can't seem to make up our minds on the enemy.

United States support for Iraq during the Iran–Iraq war.


And remember this..

Iran–Contra affair...we sold arms to IRAN, now they are our worst enemy..

Can't seem to make up our mind on whose the enemy..

How may arms has Obama sent to Libya without consent of Congress?? He should be picking out his own cell at Gitmo for violating his own NDAA.

How many Americans have been killed by guns he funneled to the Mexican drug cartels?

[Rudeboyelvis]

Mom growing very fuc1<ing weary of Obama's State Dept.'s Bullsh1t:

http://www.weeklystandard.com/daily/daily.asp

[dellinger63]

Takes a special kind of ignorance to reason this way.


http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/...se_654167.html

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Takes a special kind of ignorance to reason this way.


http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/...se_654167.html

MORGAN: "That turned out to be completely wrong--"

WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: "Well, that doesn't mean it was false."

MORGAN: "What?"

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

How may arms has Obama sent to Libya without consent of Congress?? He should be picking out his own cell at Gitmo for violating his own NDAA.

How many Americans have been killed by guns he funneled to the Mexican drug cartels?

How many countries has he invaded? How many wars has he started? How many Americans have been killed in those wars?
Why wasn't bush sent to The Hague for war crimes?

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by bigrun

How many countries has he invaded? How many wars has he started? How many Americans have been killed in those wars?
Why wasn't bush sent to The Hague for war crimes?

Good point! Bush is a war criminal. But Obama definitely is not.

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Good point! Bush is a war criminal. But Obama definitely is not.

[dellinger63]

Sept. 16:

U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice appears on five Sunday talks shows and says the attacks were spontaneous eruptions over the anti-Islam video, saying, "This was not a pre-planned, premeditated attack."

President of Libya's general National Congress Mohammed Magarief contradicts the Obama administration, saying there is "no doubt that this (attack) was pre-planned, predetermined."

Sept. 18:

Obama appears on The Late Show with David Letterman and is asked by the host if the attack was an act of war. "Here's what happened. You had a video that was released by somebody who lives here … a shadowy character who has an extremely offensive video directed at Mohammed and Islam ... so this caused great offense in much of the Muslim world."

Sept. 20:

Carney, when asked about Olsen's testimony, says it is "self-evident" that it was a terrorist attack.

In an interview at Univision Town Hall, Obama is asked whether the attack was the work of terrorists. He says his administration is still investigating the attack and cannot say for certain. "What we do know is that the natural protests that arose because of the outrage over the video were used as an excuse by extremists to see if they can also directly harm U.S. interests," Obama says.

Oct. 10:

Senior State Department officials admit in a background briefing with reporters that prior to the attack in Benghazi there was no protest outside the compound. The briefing contradicts initial White House statements that the attack came during a demonstration against the anti-Islam video that got out of control outside the consulate.

[dellinger63]

Deeper and deeper they dig. These liars have no shame.

Vice President Joe Biden claimed that the administration wasn't aware of requests for more security in Libya before the Sept. 11 attacks on the U.S. mission in Benghazi during Thursday night's debate, contradicting two State Department officials and the former head of diplomatic security in Libya.

"We weren't told they wanted more security. We did not know they wanted more security there," Biden said.

In fact, two security officials who worked for the State Department in Libya at the time testified Thursday that they repeatedly requested more security and two State Department officials admitted they had denied those requests.

http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/po...ghazi_security

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Sept. 16:

U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice appears on five Sunday talks shows and says the attacks were spontaneous eruptions over the anti-Islam video, saying, "This was not a pre-planned, premeditated attack."

Why don't you quote what was said in the time period prior to this? Doesn't fit your narrative, huh?

The Ambassador went to Benghazi to pull them out of the consulate and back to the embassy - nobody talks about that. There wasn't enough security to defend a major attack (nor is there normally). The consult didn't meet normal "defense" criteria for the structure/grounds. Darryl Issa's witch hunt Republican hearings improperly revealed state secrets, that the "annex" was actually a CIA operation. The Ambassador didn't want more personal security and felt safe in Libya. Libyans helped defend the Ambassador and the compound and were overrun. The Republicans blocked funding for more security.

Geeshus - let it fu.cking be what it is, and not right wing made-up political crap.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Sept. 18:
Obama appears on The Late Show with David Letterman and is asked by the host if the attack was an act of war. "Here's what happened. You had a video that was released by somebody who lives here … a shadowy character who has an extremely offensive video directed at Mohammed and Islam ... so this caused great offense in much of the Muslim world."

The above quote, from USA Today, is a selectively edited lie. Because the very next sentence, which USA Today must have purposely left out, changes the meaning 100%, as it was the president attributing the attack, not to mobs due to the video, but terrorists and extremists:
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"But what also happened was that extremists and terrorists used this as an excuse to attack a variety of our embassies, including the consulate in Libya."

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by bigrun

How many countries has he invaded? How many wars has he started? How many Americans have been killed in those wars?
Why wasn't bush sent to The Hague for war crimes?

seriously?! who in the hell would force that issue?

[Riot]

So, if the Obama administration was "hiding" the real information about Libya, how come it was available the next day?

Oh, the right-wing flying monkeys ....

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

seriously?! who in the hell would force that issue?

George Bush can't go to some Euro countries, as he would be arrested for war crimes.

[Rupert Pupkin]

According to Obama's deputy campaign manager, this whole Libya-Gate discussion is not even a real issue. She says it is only a topic because of Romney and Ryan.

http://freebeacon.com/cutter-benghaz...mney-and-ryan/

[Riot]

Rupert - I watched Ambassador Rice on the Sunday morning TV shows the week after the attack - she never ruled out an attack by Al Quaeda. And an attack was being discussed by the administration the next morning afterwards, in the immediate aftermath, and they said they were trying to verify it.

Libya "gate" is RW baloney. Darryl Issa is an idiot, and was proven one at the hearings yesterday. Have you listened to the link I gave? Try it.

Once again:

The actual testimony of the hearing today, uncolored by imaginary partisan bullsh.iat, made up crap, and "guessing what will be said later today":

Video:
http://www.c-span.org/Events/Congres...10737434835-1/

Story:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...89919Z20121010

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Riot

Rupert - I watched Ambassador Rice on the Sunday morning TV shows the week after the attack - she never ruled out an attack by Al Quaeda. And an attack was being discussed by the administration the next morning afterwards, in the immediate aftermath, and they said they were trying to verify it.

Libya "gate" is RW baloney. Darryl Issa is an idiot, and was proven one at the hearings yesterday. Have you listened to the link I gave? Try it.

Once again:

I think the time-line is pretty clear. This is from USA Today. USA Today is not some right-wing paper.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/w...ttack/1624733/