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Old 11-11-2006, 09:10 PM
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Let me get a shovel, so I can rid the area of all of the bull$hit you are spewing. I would go out on a limb and say 99% of people that want to be right about poly not being the end all be all to horse safety still aren't looking to see horses, or anyone injured.

dont kid yourself.
the main argument, especially in CA, is the safety of the horses and rders.
in KY and the east coast, it has more to do with weather and racing days.
but in CA, they have fast tracks anyway.
so its really about some percieved level of safety.

so with that in mind, if we are going to win the state of CA, we have to beat them on the safety issue.
we need horses to start getting hurt and breaking down.
the sooner the better.
have you seen those TVG "cushion track" propaganda commercials.
they interview like 10 trainers about the new, "safe", surface.



and dont act like horse players are so freaking concerned about the safety of horses.
dont tell me that when your horse is in a dog fight in the stretch, that you are not hoping for something to go wrong with the other horse.


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Old 11-11-2006, 09:14 PM
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that you are not hoping for something to go wrong with the other horse.


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i'd imagine that everyone is hoping for their horse to be in front at the wire, not that the other horse has something go wrong with it. leave it to you to come up with that type scenario.
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Old 11-11-2006, 09:15 PM
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and it would be nice if no more horses had to lose their life for our enjoyment. so, sorry, altho i'm not sold on poly, i'll be damned if i'd want to see another pine island to prove a point.
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Old 11-11-2006, 09:30 PM
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and it would be nice if no more horses had to lose their life for our enjoyment. so, sorry, altho i'm not sold on poly, i'll be damned if i'd want to see another pine island to prove a point.

no,
she died on dirt.
that was not a good thing for our argument.
fortunately I also had RPond on my late pick 4 ticket.
was alive until Bern f*cked it up.

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Old 11-11-2006, 09:16 PM
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dont kid yourself.
the main argument, especially in CA, is the safety of the horses and rders.
in KY and the east coast, it has more to do with weather and racing days.
but in CA, they have fast tracks anyway.
so its really about some percieved level of safety.

so with that in mind, if we are going to win the state of CA, we have to beat them on the safety issue.
we need horses to start getting hurt and breaking down.
the sooner the better.
have you seen those TVG "cushion track" propaganda commercials.
they interview like 10 trainers about the new, "safe", surface.



and dont act like horse players are so freaking concerned about the safety of horses.
dont tell me that when your horse is in a dog fight in the stretch, that you are not hoping for something to go wrong with the other horse.


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oh, and repent, not quite sure who your idea of 'we' is...but rest assured, i'm not part of that team.
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Old 11-11-2006, 09:27 PM
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dont kid yourself.
the main argument, especially in CA, is the safety of the horses and rders.
in KY and the east coast, it has more to do with weather and racing days.
but in CA, they have fast tracks anyway.
so its really about some percieved level of safety.

so with that in mind, if we are going to win the state of CA, we have to beat them on the safety issue.
we need horses to start getting hurt and breaking down.
the sooner the better.
have you seen those TVG "cushion track" propaganda commercials.
they interview like 10 trainers about the new, "safe", surface.



and dont act like horse players are so freaking concerned about the safety of horses.
dont tell me that when your horse is in a dog fight in the stretch, that you are not hoping for something to go wrong with the other horse.


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I have so many problems with what you said I don't even know where to begin. Nothing personal because I don't know you at all, but why is safety for horses (and riders) a bad thing? Why do you want it to fail?

The "propaganda" is, most likely, actually the truth. I admit the jury's still out, but Santa Anita is a virtual ghost town because everyone's in Inglehood training their horses on a safer surface. Not all of these trainers can be wrong about how their horses are handling the polytrack, and that they're staying sounder. That can't just be a perception. I have no doubt that horses will be fatally injured racing over it, but I am also as convinced that it won't be even close to as many as have been for decades now.

And when my horse is battling down the stretch, I don't wish for his rival to snap a leg. I wish the rider drops the whip, or the bridle breaks or he just gets tired. I know a lot of hard-core handicappers, but not one who wishes injury to horse or rider just to cash a ticket.
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Old 11-11-2006, 09:32 PM
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Dude, they are putting poly in at ALL Cali tracks by 2007. Consider your fight lost. Don't act like horseplayers aren't concerned with the safety of horses. I am a horse racing fan first, and a gambler second. There are plenty other avenues I could go to, to get my gambling fix. I honestly care about the safety of horses, and again, I'll go out on a limb and say 99% of the people on here are as well.

you sure about that?
thought the mandate was just for SoCal tracks.
i think Bay Meadows, Golden Gate and the fair circuit are safe.
I hope I am right.


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Old 11-11-2006, 09:43 PM
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Nope, state mandated all 5 of the states major tracks have to be poly by 2007. SA, DMR, HOL, BM and GG.
f*ck.
I read differently, but Im sure you are right.

well,
that means we need all the breakdowns and problems we can get btwn now and then.
might not make a difference, but it cant hurt.
I wish one of these tracks(mainly the 2 Magna tracks) would stand up and preserve the tradition that is dirt racing in America.

Im going to lmao when they decide to go back to regular dirt in 2009 after 2 years of that crap.
lot of wasted time and money.


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Old 11-11-2006, 10:07 PM
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Not really sure who the we you are referring to is, because you are on island there psycho. Here's the link to the Cali stuff.


http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/print...611&type=story

thanks,
I went to the CHRB's website and read the press releases after you posted that about all CA tracks.

you were right.
any track running thoroughbreds for more than 4 consecutive weeks has to install some sort of synethic surface.
gave them 4 to choose from.
Hollypark obviously chose cushion.
I heard Del Mar chose the same, but Im not sure.
do you know?


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