who won the debate?

[Dahoss]

While obviously Romney "won" the debate, did he really say anything last night? He was better at one liners and was able to fall back on Obama's 4 years as President which is an obvious advantage.

But what did he actually say that would influence someone on the fence about who to vote for? I ask this genuinely, because all I saw was someone who is a better debater, but his ideas still don't make much sense and won't benefit those of us who aren't millionaires.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

While obviously Romney "won" the debate, did he really say anything last night? He was better at one liners and was able to fall back on Obama's 4 years as President which is an obvious advantage.

But what did he actually say that would influence someone on the fence about who to vote for? I ask this genuinely, because all I saw was someone who is a better debater, but his ideas still don't make much sense and won't benefit those of us who aren't millionaires.

I haven't seen a performance like Obama's since the Bills went up 21-7 in the 3rd quarter this past weekend. He had all the bullets but didn't fire them.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

While obviously Romney "won" the debate, did he really say anything last night? He was better at one liners and was able to fall back on Obama's 4 years as President which is an obvious advantage.

But what did he actually say that would influence someone on the fence about who to vote for? I ask this genuinely, because all I saw was someone who is a better debater, but his ideas still don't make much sense and won't benefit those of us who aren't millionaires.

It's nothing more than a circus sideshow anyway. They make a million promises and break every single one of them once in office, and are never held accountable.

Romney swears that your impression stated above is not true, and believes that the Obama campaign is responsible for distorting the truth about his positions.

whatevah.

They did exactly what politicians do best - they talked for 2 hours and said nothing.


I'm just glad we finally got to see them discuss-debate serious issues facing our nation;

Civil liberties, privacy rights, due process, Wall Street crime....





Oh wait.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

They did exactly what politicians do best - they talked for 2 hours and said nothing.


I'm just glad we finally got to see them discuss-debate serious issues facing our nation;

Civil liberties, privacy rights, due process, Wall Street crime.... Oh wait.

You said this better than I tried to.

They both said nothing at all. So it kind of confusing to me why people are excited after last. It's like, "YAY!!! Our guy was a better liar last night, let's e-high five and act excited about our guy being not so bad last night."

Kind of mind boggling.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

You said this better than I tried to.

They both said nothing at all. So it kind of confusing to me why people are excited after last. It's like, "YAY!!! Our guy was a better liar last night, let's e-high five and act excited about our guy being not so bad last night."

Kind of mind boggling.

i guess its true what your saying..but after 12 months of riot ..just a glimmer of romeny doing better is cause for some yay.in the end it wont matter..hey keeneland starts friday..YAY !!

[jms62]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

i guess its true what your saying..but after 12 months of riot ..just a glimmer of romeny doing better is cause for some yay.in the end it wont matter..hey keeneland starts friday..YAY !!

Keenland will do more harm to my bankroll then Romney's "Tax Cut"

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

i guess its true what your saying..but after 12 months of riot ..just a glimmer of romeny doing better is cause for some yay.in the end it wont matter..hey keeneland starts friday..YAY !!

I get the Riot stuff, trust me, so point taken.

But I don't know how someone can watch that last night and be excited about our future as a country going forward. Just the opposite for me.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

I get the Riot stuff, trust me, so point taken.

But I don't know how someone can watch that last night and be excited about our future as a country going forward. Just the opposite for me.

I think the excitement stems more from Obama looking terrible, than the future (at least in the near term) of the country (which probably speaks volumes as us as a society). I'll admit that I'm guilty of this too. But after watching the President be treated as a rock star and seem to never be taken to task for anything, I enjoyed watching him get mopped up last night. He has always been a good speaker (maybe it really is the teleprompter), but last night he just didn't seem sharp or foucused and it hurt him. I felt that four years ago his entire campaign was I'm not Bush and everytime he played that card, his ratings seemed to spike. Last night Romney through some ideas and numbers out there and the President didn't seem to have any answers or comebacks. Also Rommney seemed to have the responses for anything the President through at him.

In the long run, these guys are just politicians and will probably say anything to get elected. I think we all realize this. We just have to hope the lesser of two evils gets elected and somehow gets some things done to get this country going again. Despite what Riot says or posts, things seem like they haven't gotten better during the last 4 years.

As far as if Romney actually said anything, here's what I got Hoss (but I'll admit that I'm far from a political know it all, besides I was also flipping back and forth from the Yankees & O's games). I liked his thoughts about domestic energy. We rely too much on foreign oil, period. I have a good job and what it costs to have two vehicles is obscene. He said he wouldn't raise taxes on the middle class and he seemed to dispel Obama's myth that he's cutting the deficit. He will also repeal Obamacare. At times he sounded like a buisnessman last night and maybe that's what the country needs to get going again. Obviously it could all be lip service, but the president didn't seem like he had any answers for any of it. I think someone else said it, Obama had his 4 years, lets see what the next guy can do.

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

In the long run, these guys are just politicians and will probably say anything to get elected. I think we all realize this. We just have to hope the lesser of two evils gets elected and somehow gets some things done to get this country going again. Despite what Riot says or posts, things seem like they haven't gotten better during the last 4 years.

Agree 100%

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

As far as if Romney actually said anything, here's what I got Hoss (but I'll admit that I'm far from a political know it all, besides I was also flipping back and forth from the Yankees & O's games). I liked his thoughts about domestic energy. We rely too much on foreign oil, period. I have a good job and what it costs to have two vehicles is obscene. He said he wouldn't raise taxes on the middle class and he seemed to dispel Obama's myth that he's cutting the deficit. He will also repeal Obamacare. At times he sounded like a buisnessman last night and maybe that's what the country needs to get going again. Obviously it could all be lip service, but the president didn't seem like he had any answers for any of it. I think someone else said it, Obama had his 4 years, lets see what the next guy can do.

The problem is it's ALL lip service. From both of them.

You hit the nail on the head that Romney is a businessman. A businessman who sent a lot of jobs overseas because it made sense financially. So I find some of his promises a bit tough to believe. But he isn't alone there. They're both full of s.hit.

I can't remember too many politicians ever saying their plan is to raise taxes on the middle class. He was just repeating the same lie most candidates say.

I'm just at the point where I'm tired of elections where we're left with choosing who will screw us over the least. I don't see a lot of people liking Romney for a reason other than they dislike Obama. And vice versa.

It's like we're voting for Homecoming King of the United States.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

While obviously Romney "won" the debate, did he really say anything last night? He was better at one liners and was able to fall back on Obama's 4 years as President which is an obvious advantage.

But what did he actually say that would influence someone on the fence about who to vote for? I ask this genuinely, because all I saw was someone who is a better debater, but his ideas still don't make much sense and won't benefit those of us who aren't millionaires.

yeah, that's what i'm thinking. he may have won the debate itself-but exactly what does that mean? does it do anything, provide anything, sway anyone? you can win a 100 of those, doesn't mean you'll win the vote.

Originally Posted by Dahoss

I get the Riot stuff, trust me, so point taken.

But I don't know how someone can watch that last night and be excited about our future as a country going forward. Just the opposite for me.

exactly.