This has officially gotten way out of hand

[IrishofNDMan]

Brilliant play by Golden Tate.... GO IRISH!

[OldDog]

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

Brilliant play by Golden Tate.

Seriously? It was a great effort, no argument. But he did not have possession. It wasn't even "dual possession."

[jms62]

Originally Posted by OldDog

Seriously? It was a great effort, no argument. But he did not have possession. It wasn't even "dual possession."

It really was not even questionable not even close to dual possession more like tate put his hands on the ball when the play was decided.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

Brilliant play by Golden Tate.... GO IRISH!

There was nothing brilliant about that play. Did you get your education at ND? If so they ripped you off, because you are showing your lack of intelligence by that comment

[IrishofNDMan]

Originally Posted by wiphan

There was nothing brilliant about that play. Did you get your education at ND? If so they ripped you off, because you are showing your lack of intelligence by that comment

No I did not go to ND, I'd probably be smarter if I did. Would I be pissed as a packers fan? Yes. But with the officials sucking so much I think he was smart to first push off because without that he had no shot at the ball, and I do believe he caught it with his hands while the other guy caught it in his chest.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

No I did not go to ND, I'd probably be smarter if I did. Would I be pissed as a packers fan? Yes. But with the officials sucking so much I think he was smart to first push off because without that he had no shot at the ball, and I do believe he caught it with his hands while the other guy caught it in his chest.

Even Marshawn Lynch has the balls to say they didn't win that game


http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--se...day-night.html

[dagolfer33]

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

Would I be pissed as a packers fan?

I am not a Packer fan, but as a fan of the NFL, I am appalled. I am a Raiders fan, and we were subjected to the most infamous screwing in the history of the league. For me, what's right is right, and what's wrong is wrong. This was a no contest.

[casp0555]

Im glad I'm not wagering on this sport this season, referee's are the biggest reason , maybe next season

[wiphan]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...headline_stack

[Seattleallstar]

wonder all those people that bet big on packers

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by wiphan

There was nothing brilliant about that play. Did you get your education at ND? If so they ripped you off, because you are showing your lack of intelligence by that comment

Nothing better than the diehard college fan that never went to the college. They are an endless source of entertainment.

[IrishofNDMan]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

Nothing better than the diehard college fan that never went to the college. They are an endless source of entertainment.

Didn't know you had to go to a school to cheer for them.... I guess as a child you shouldn't watch college football then.

[-BT-]

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/ey...blers-fortunes

-bt-

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by -BT-

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/ey...blers-fortunes

-bt-

I'd like to know what the % of Home teams are covering thus far.... It seems that every judgement call which affects an important turn in a game is going against the Visitors -Granted, this is just one pure idiot's speculation, but I'd be curious.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

Didn't know you had to go to a school to cheer for them.... I guess as a child you shouldn't watch college football then.

Children obviously haven't had the opportunity to go. There is nothing wrong with you supporting them, but to me it just isn't the same. I live in Oklahoma and I just get turned off how the team is treated like pros by people that can't spell the name of the state. They trash a bunch of kids like they are earning 10 million a year or something.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by wiphan

There was nothing brilliant about that play. Did you get your education at ND? If so they ripped you off, because you are showing your lack of intelligence by that comment

What do you think the NFL should do regarding the replacement refs?

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by jms62

What do you think the NFL should do regarding the replacement refs?

It is obvious that these guys are in way over there head and yes now it has cost the players and fans at least 1 game. Fortunately no one has been seriously hurt, but in my opinion this shows the lack of respect by the NFL for their product. They believe they are bigger than the game and you are going to watch it no matter what and you know what they are probably right. I don't think they should be playing until they get competent officials on the field. Will the regular refs make mistakes, of course. However watching the games the last 3 weeks is ridiculous. Some of these guys weren't competent enough to ref lingerie games. Most haven't officiated above the D3 level in college. It isn't there fault they are not good enough. I believe they shouldn't play another game until they get competent officials on the field. It is not fair to the players, fans, bettors, etc.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by wiphan

It is obvious that these guys are in way over there head and yes now it has cost the players and fans at least 1 game. Fortunately no one has been seriously hurt, but in my opinion this shows the lack of respect by the NFL for their product. They believe they are bigger than the game and you are going to watch it no matter what and you know what they are probably right. I don't think they should be playing until they get competent officials on the field. Will the regular refs make mistakes, of course. However watching the games the last 3 weeks is ridiculous. Some of these guys weren't competent enough to ref lingerie games. Most haven't officiated above the D3 level in college. It isn't there fault they are not good enough. I believe they shouldn't play another game until they get competent officials on the field. It is not fair to the players, fans, bettors, etc.

I agree with your position 100% but I am suprised that in this case you are for negotiating with a union rather then breaking it by using scabs which seems to be inconsistent with your political views.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by jms62

I agree with your position 100% but I am suprised that in this case you are for negotiating with a union rather then breaking it by using scabs which seems to be inconsistent with your political views.

Public unions and private unions are different in my opinion. There is nothing wrong with private unions. Public unions are completely different.

"All Government employees should realize that the process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service. It has its distinct and insurmountable limitations when applied to public personnel management. The very nature and purposes of Government make it impossible for administrative officials to represent fully or to bind the employer in mutual discussions with Government employee organizations. The employer is the whole people, who speak by means of laws enacted by their representatives in Congress. Accordingly, administrative officials and employees alike are governed and guided, and in many instances restricted, by laws which establish policies, procedures, or rules in personnel matters."- FDR

[jms62]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Public unions and private unions are different in my opinion. There is nothing wrong with private unions. Public unions are completely different.

"All Government employees should realize that the process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service. It has its distinct and insurmountable limitations when applied to public personnel management. The very nature and purposes of Government make it impossible for administrative officials to represent fully or to bind the employer in mutual discussions with Government employee organizations. The employer is the whole people, who speak by means of laws enacted by their representatives in Congress. Accordingly, administrative officials and employees alike are governed and guided, and in many instances restricted, by laws which establish policies, procedures, or rules in personnel matters."- FDR

Fair enough