Obama Top 50 accomplishments

[bigrun]

And then there is this, an email sent to me from an impeccable source, my wingnut repuke bud...he knows the truth when he sees it...



Quit trashing President Obama's accomplishments. He has done more than any other President before him. He has an impressive list of accomplishments:

First President to apply for college aid as a foreign student, then deny he was a foreigner.
First President to have a social security number from a state he has never lived in.
First President to preside over a cut to the credit-rating of the United States
First President to violate the War Powers Act. .
First President to be held in contempt of court for illegally obstructing oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico .
First President to require all Americans to purchase a product from a third party.
First President to spend a trillion dollars on 'shovel-ready' jobs when there was no such thing as 'shovel-ready' jobs.
First President to abrogate bankruptcy law to turn over control of companies to his union supporters.
First President to by-pass Congress and implement the Dream Act through executive fiat.
First President to order a secret amnesty program that stopped the deportation of illegal immigrants across the U.S. , including those with criminal convictions.
First President to demand a company hand-over $20 billion to one of his political appointees.
First President to tell a CEO of a major corporation (Chrysler) to resign.
First President to terminate America 's ability to put a man in space.
First President to cancel the National Day of Prayer and to say that America is no longer a Christian nation.
First President to have a law signed by an auto-pen without being present.
First President to arbitrarily declare an existing law unconstitutional and refuse to enforce it.
First President to threaten insurance companies if they publicly spoke-out on the reasons for their rate increases.
First President to tell a major manufacturing company in which state it is allowed to locate a factory.
First President to file lawsuits against the states he swore an oath to protect (AZ, WI, OH, IN).
First President to withdraw an existing coal permit that had been properly issued years ago.
First President to actively try to bankrupt an American industry (coal).
First President to fire an inspector general of Ameri-Corps for catching one of his friends in a corruption case.
First President to appoint 45 czars to replace elected officials in his office.
First President to surround himself with radical left wing anarchists.
First President to golf 73 separate times in his first two and a half years in office, 102 to date.
First President to hide his medical, educational and travel records.
First President to win a Nobel Peace Prize while doing NOTHING to earn it.
First President to go on multiple global “apology tours” and concurrent “insult our friends” tours.
First President to go on 17 lavish vacations, including date nights and Wednesday evening White House parties for his friends paid for by the taxpayer.
First President to have 22 personal servants (taxpayer funded) for his wife.
First President to keep a dog trainer on retainer for $102,000 a year at taxpayer expense. this one ticks me off
First President to repeat the Holy Quran & tell us the early morning call of the Azan (Islamic call to worship) is the most beautiful sound on earth.
First President to tell the military men and women that they should pay for their own private insurance because they “volunteered to go to war and knew the consequences”. now i'm pissed!
Then he was the First President to tell the members of the military that THEY were UNPATRIOTIC for balking at the last suggestion.OMG
First President to side with a foreign nation over one of the American 50 states (Mexico vs Arizona).

[Riot]

And then there is this, an email sent to me from an impeccable source, my wingnut repuke bud...he knows the truth when he sees it...

Well rest assured that more than half that stuff - especially a lot of that "First President to" stuff is RWNJ crap proven false long ago ... check Politifact

Hell, I even remember all the dog trainers on previous retainer for various White Houses!'

It's amazing how some folks don't think there exists any way to actually fact check things.
Ah, the gullible ... a constant source of hilarity. I love how opinion and approval or disapproval is constantly conflated with "truth".

Things like that oft-repeated canard, "the stimulus was an epic fail". Nope. 99.9% of economists around the world say, not at all, it worked. Yes, suck on that, Obama-haters. You may not "believe" in stimulus. But the stimulus worked, and that's a measurable and proven economic fact, verified by virtually every single independent economist.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Riot

Things like that oft-repeated canard, "the stimulus was an epic fail". Nope. 99.9% of economists around the world say, not at all, it worked. Yes, suck on that, Obama-haters. You may not "believe" in stimulus. But the stimulus worked, and that's a measurable and proven economic fact, verified by virtually every single independent economist.

Wow. This unsubstantiated lie just won me over. How could I have been so blind??

[Rudeboyelvis]

Amazing how much bullsti.t she pulls out of her asz, and parades it as fact.

Now it's 4.6 million jobs? Gee, Obama only took credit for 4.5 million, and that was laughed away when proven by fact that when the dust settled, it was only 300K. Oh, that cost almost a trillion dollars.

Where did this latest flood of jobs come from? I'm guessing you had some accounting help by the 99.9% of economists that also supposedly believe the cool trillion was worth it. SMH.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Amazing how much bullsti.t she pulls out of her asz, and parades it as fact.

Now it's 4.6 million jobs? Gee, Obama only took credit for 4.5 million, and that was laughed away when proven by fact that when the dust settled, it was only 300K. Oh, that cost almost a trillion dollars.

Where did this latest flood of jobs come from? I'm guessing you had some accounting help by the 99.9% of economists that also supposedly believe the cool trillion was worth it. SMH.

you have to count 'saved' jobs too.

on the bolded, what?!

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/...timulus-worked

"But in a survey by the University of Chicago's Booth School of Business, 80 percent of the 40 or so economists surveyed agreed with the Congressional Budget Office, known as the CBO, that the unemployment rate was lower at the end of 2010 than it would have been without the stimulus law. The survey asked a second question about whether—accounting for future costs arising from financing the stimulus with debt—its benefits would end up exceeding its costs. Here, 46 percent thought that they would and another 27 percent were uncertain, leaving only a small percentage that did not."

.........so, less than half think it will turn out to have been beneficial long-term.

yeah, i haven't seen 99.9% anywhere. obviously a made up figure. that can't be!


and i found this:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...bibJ_blog.html

"If you ask the Obama administration, economists are virtually united in thinking the 2009 stimulus package worked. “I’m absolutely convinced, and the vast majority of economists are convinced, that the steps we took in the Recovery Act saved millions of people their jobs or created a whole bunch of jobs,” Obama declared at a press conference last month. Or, to quote NEC chair Gene Sperling from an interview a few weeks ago, “There is no question that the evidence is showing that the type of things the president did to help state and local governments really mattered, were really helpful in pulling us from the brink of depression to a recovery.”

But the stimulus’ critics allege that this evidence isn’t reliable. The studies the administration is relying on depend on models that “substitute assumptions for identification,” Harvard economist Robert Barro writes today in the Wall Street Journal. “To figure out the economic effects of transfers one needs ‘experiments,’” Barro writes, “in which the government changes transfer in an unusual way—while other factors stay the same—but these events are rare.”

The truth is, both studies of the type Barro prefers, and studies using models, which he criticizes, have been conducted to determine the effect of the stimulus on employment and output. Of the nine studies I’ve found, six find that the stimulus had a significant, positive effect on employment and growth, and three find that the effect was either quite small or impossible to detect."


not exactly 99.9%....

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Danzig

you have to count 'saved' jobs too.

on the bolded, what?!

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/...timulus-worked

"But in a survey by the University of Chicago's Booth School of Business, 80 percent of the 40 or so economists surveyed agreed with the Congressional Budget Office, known as the CBO, that the unemployment rate was lower at the end of 2010 than it would have been without the stimulus law. The survey asked a second question about whether—accounting for future costs arising from financing the stimulus with debt—its benefits would end up exceeding its costs. Here, 46 percent thought that they would and another 27 percent were uncertain, leaving only a small percentage that did not."

.........so, less than half think it will turn out to have been beneficial long-term.

yeah, i haven't seen 99.9% anywhere. obviously a made up figure. that can't be!


and i found this:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...bibJ_blog.html

"If you ask the Obama administration, economists are virtually united in thinking the 2009 stimulus package worked. “I’m absolutely convinced, and the vast majority of economists are convinced, that the steps we took in the Recovery Act saved millions of people their jobs or created a whole bunch of jobs,” Obama declared at a press conference last month. Or, to quote NEC chair Gene Sperling from an interview a few weeks ago, “There is no question that the evidence is showing that the type of things the president did to help state and local governments really mattered, were really helpful in pulling us from the brink of depression to a recovery.”

But the stimulus’ critics allege that this evidence isn’t reliable. The studies the administration is relying on depend on models that “substitute assumptions for identification,” Harvard economist Robert Barro writes today in the Wall Street Journal. “To figure out the economic effects of transfers one needs ‘experiments,’” Barro writes, “in which the government changes transfer in an unusual way—while other factors stay the same—but these events are rare.”

The truth is, both studies of the type Barro prefers, and studies using models, which he criticizes, have been conducted to determine the effect of the stimulus on employment and output. Of the nine studies I’ve found, six find that the stimulus had a significant, positive effect on employment and growth, and three find that the effect was either quite small or impossible to detect."


not exactly 99.9%....

Exactly, Ziggy... The entire farce is a joke. Everything from Romney's plan to "save the country", to how "wonderful everything is due to Obama mortgaging us into fiscal collapse" is based on assumptions that neither side would believe with a straight face.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Exactly, Ziggy... The entire farce is a joke. Everything from Romney's plan to "save the country", to how "wonderful everything is due to Obama mortgaging us into fiscal collapse" is based on assumptions that neither side would believe with a straight face.

it is a farce.

as long as folks go with the two big parties, we will continue to deal with all this bs. we need to all vote C. everyone. just think what would happen if the dems and reps both were kicked to the curb! my oh my. that would be awesome.


won't happen. too many, on each side, still thinks their side is the one. wrong. both parties are owned by the same group of people. most big corporations donate similar amounts to both parties to hedge their bets.
like gore vidal said, people need to recognize there aren't two parties. there is one party, run for 4% of the people.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Exactly, Ziggy... The entire farce is a joke. Everything from Romney's plan to "save the country", to how "wonderful everything is due to Obama mortgaging us into fiscal collapse" is based on assumptions that neither side would believe with a straight face.

Really, Rude? Where has "Obama mortgaged us into fiscal collapse"?

Words have meanings, you know.

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Wow. This unsubstantiated lie just won me over. How could I have been so blind??

I like this part too...

" verified by virtually every single independent economist"

Oh my !

[OldDog]

Originally Posted by geeker2

I like this part too...

" verified by virtually every single independent economist"

Oh my !

"Literally!"
http://economistsforromney.com/

[Riot]

Originally Posted by OldDog

"Literally!"
http://economistsforromney.com/

I started another thread on the stimulus. You're free to please join that discussion, and quote economists stating how the stimulus didn't work.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Wow. This unsubstantiated lie just won me over. How could I have been so blind??

Assessments from major economists on the stimulus have been posted here in Derby Trail before, several times, in threads you have commented upon.

Sorry, I assume you read and remember the threads you have posted in?

But go ahead and post economists talking about how the stimulus has failed - please. I'll be happy to post - again, for the third time - the ones that verify it was a success.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

Assessments from major economists on the stimulus have been posted here in Derby Trail before, several times, in threads you have commented upon.

Sorry, I assume you read and remember the threads you have posted in?

But go ahead and post economists talking about how the stimulus has failed - please. I'll be happy to post - again, for the third time - the ones that verify it was a success.

Can you post 999 for every 1 I can find?

That is how you convert % into real numbers.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Can you post 999 for every 1 I can find?

That is how you convert % into real numbers.

Um. No. Your math is off. You've confused the mathematical conversion to percentage with an actual percentage. You're off by a decimal point. Try again But I'll be looking forward to your postings! Anxiously awaiting you to post the first study that shows the stimulus was a failure.

[Clip-Clop]

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/...in-in-spending

"Nearly 100 prominent U.S. economists including former CBO Director Douglas Holtz-Eakin, Ohio University’s Richard Vedder, and James C. Miller, III, who headed up the White House Office of Management and Budget under Ronald Reagan, are telling President Barack Obama that his economic stimulus has failed"

There is 3, your turn.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/...in-in-spending

"Nearly 100 prominent U.S. economists including former CBO Director Douglas Holtz-Eakin, Ohio University’s Richard Vedder, and James C. Miller, III, who headed up the White House Office of Management and Budget under Ronald Reagan, are telling President Barack Obama that his economic stimulus has failed"

There is 3, your turn.

Yes - can you show what actual studies and figures they are using to show that? Because you are quoting from back in early 2010 - before the stimulus was even fully in effect. Try quoting an economist from 2011 or 2012, looking back on the stimulus.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

Well rest assured that more than half that stuff - especially a lot of that "First President to" stuff is RWNJ crap proven false long ago ... check Politifact

Hell, I even remember all the dog trainers on previous retainer for various White Houses!'

It's amazing how some folks don't think there exists any way to actually fact check things.
Ah, the gullible ... a constant source of hilarity. I love how opinion and approval or disapproval is constantly conflated with "truth".

Things like that oft-repeated canard, "the stimulus was an epic fail". Nope. 99.9% of economists around the world say, not at all, it worked. Yes, suck on that, Obama-haters. You may not "believe" in stimulus. But the stimulus worked, and that's a measurable and proven economic fact, verified by virtually every single independent economist.

you do realize that is 999 out of every 1000. I know math is typically not welcome in the politics forum due to the inability for numbers to lie but that is pretty basic right there.