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Old 09-21-2012, 09:07 PM
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The driving force behind this is the Jockey Club and some of its outspoken members. Note that many didnt want to speak to the Times reporters because they knew whatever they said would be misinterpreted yet Jockey club stalwarts Janney, Farmer and Iuliano had no problem stirring the pot with innuendo and nonsense about Seabiscuit.

Imagine NFL executives speaking about football like Jockey Club members talk about racing?

I wonder how much of the owners complaints are even valid. There is one sentence that says that 2 of their horses were treated with clembuterol for 7 consecutive days (which is laughable considering that if there was some lung issues this would be easily within the suggested treatment period) yet vets wouldnt be the ones treating the horses as they would just dispense the clembuterol which comes in syrup form.

There are some trainers/vets who have out of control bills but I wonder a lot of times if they even dispense the meds or if it just a scam.
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Old 09-21-2012, 10:39 PM
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The driving force behind this is the Jockey Club and some of its outspoken members. Note that many didnt want to speak to the Times reporters because they knew whatever they said would be misinterpreted yet Jockey club stalwarts Janney, Farmer and Iuliano had no problem stirring the pot with innuendo and nonsense about Seabiscuit.

Imagine NFL executives speaking about football like Jockey Club members talk about racing?

I wonder how much of the owners complaints are even valid. There is one sentence that says that 2 of their horses were treated with clembuterol for 7 consecutive days (which is laughable considering that if there was some lung issues this would be easily within the suggested treatment period) yet vets wouldnt be the ones treating the horses as they would just dispense the clembuterol which comes in syrup form.

There are some trainers/vets who have out of control bills but I wonder a lot of times if they even dispense the meds or if it just a scam.
i would imagine that there are some dishonest trainers out there who present vet bills that might not bear close scrutiny. but if some trainers are going to cheat in other ways, i doubt they'd balk at that.

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Old 09-21-2012, 10:51 PM
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sounds to me like horses are being treated like humans. pill for this. shot for that. probably not good for horses or people.
i'm not in the industry so i am only guessing but it seems to me both vets and doctors might go a little overboard with the drugs to get their horses on the track and their players on the field. when's the times going to run that story?
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Old 09-21-2012, 11:00 PM
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sounds to me like horses are being treated like humans. pill for this. shot for that. probably not good for horses or people.
i'm not in the industry so i am only guessing but it seems to me both vets and doctors might go a little overboard with the drugs to get their horses on the track and their players on the field. when's the times going to run that story?
i can't imagine being a trainer, and caught in between the different factions. owners want their horse to run, so you're supposed to perform miracles to get them healthy if they arne't-but don't spend too much on drugs (cause drugs are bad, mkay) or medical care-cause then you get griped at about the bills. but if you don't call the vet, well, why isn't the horse running? then you have the track wanting your help in filling a race. you want to do right by the horse, and you're stuck between competing interests.

and you know there's something wrong with our pharmaceutical companies when they're coming out with new pills for growing thicker eyelashes. can't cure cancer yet, but at least your corpse will have thick lashes when you shuffle off this mortal coil.
crazy world anymore.
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Old 09-22-2012, 10:13 AM
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i can't imagine being a trainer, and caught in between the different factions. owners want their horse to run, so you're supposed to perform miracles to get them healthy if they arne't-but don't spend too much on drugs (cause drugs are bad, mkay) or medical care-cause then you get griped at about the bills. but if you don't call the vet, well, why isn't the horse running? then you have the track wanting your help in filling a race. you want to do right by the horse, and you're stuck between competing interests.

and you know there's something wrong with our pharmaceutical companies when they're coming out with new pills for growing thicker eyelashes. can't cure cancer yet, but at least your corpse will have thick lashes when you shuffle off this mortal coil.
crazy world anymore.

I love that you used a Mr. Mackey reference here!
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Old 09-22-2012, 10:18 AM
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I love that you used a Mr. Mackey reference here!



it's just too bad that the nyt keeps putting out these articles. it seems they are attempting to lump everyone involved in the sport into a group of needle-wielding crazies hell-bent on destroying every horse in the barn. it's absurd.
but people who don't know much about horse racing will cluck their tongues and say 'poor horsies, being abused'. is there abuse? sure. is it rampant? i don't think it is.
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