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Old 09-20-2012, 09:16 AM
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Confistication of wealth. Plueeze. Do you just Puke up the Republicrip pablum without any investigation into reality whatsoever.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...88I0WA20120919
Yeah JMS big government really works, it is doing wonders in Europe and here.
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Old 09-20-2012, 09:20 AM
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Yeah JMS big government really works, it is doing wonders in Europe and here.
Please give us instances of our government confisticating wealth not just the Tea-Bagger scare tactics. We are near an ALL TIME LOW in Tax Revenue.
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Old 09-20-2012, 09:29 AM
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Please give us instances of our government confisticating wealth not just the Tea-Bagger scare tactics. We are near an ALL TIME LOW in Tax Revenue.
Are you aware that at some point the higher the tax rate, the lower the revenues? Even Obama knows this, but he thinks it "fairer" to take from the producers of this country and redistribute it to others as he sees fit.

Have you taken a look at the economy? Do you think that might also have something to do with revenues?

Are you denying that we have the highest corporate tax rate in the world?

And please don't give us your OWS scare tactics.
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Old 09-20-2012, 09:43 AM
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Are you aware that at some point the higher the tax rate, the lower the revenues? Even Obama knows this, but he thinks it "fairer" to take from the producers of this country and redistribute it to others as he sees fit.
Have you taken a look at the economy? Do you think that might also have something to do with revenues?

Are you denying that we have the highest corporate tax rate in the world?

And please don't give us your OWS scare tactics.
Everything you spout is clearly from the Tea-Bagger manifesto. Scare tactics and half truths. You really don't have an original thought in your head. You make accusations without anything to back it up. And then you accuse me of using OWS scare tactics.. Really are you so fuking juvenile that you play the I know you are but what am I game. And you are a fuking Lawyer??? OY FUKING VEY...
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Old 09-20-2012, 10:09 AM
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Everything you spout is clearly from the Tea-Bagger manifesto. Scare tactics and half truths. You really don't have an original thought in your head. You make accusations without anything to back it up. And then you accuse me of using OWS scare tactics.. Really are you so fuking juvenile that you play the I know you are but what am I game. And you are a fuking Lawyer??? OY FUKING VEY...
Really JMS, like what? please explain. What accusations have I made without backing them up? Seems like you are using words like teabagger tactics and half-truths without providing a shred of evidence to back it up. Just like your pal Dahoss, you are projecting.

I still haven't heard one intelligent argument come from your posts, seems like I will be waiting a long time.
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Old 09-20-2012, 10:18 AM
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Really JMS, like what? please explain. What accusations have I made without backing them up? Seems like you are using words like teabagger tactics and half-truths without providing a shred of evidence to back it up. Just like your pal Dahoss, you are projecting.

I still haven't heard one intelligent argument come from your posts, seems like I will be waiting a long time.
No you never insult or get personal.. LOL...
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Old 09-20-2012, 09:57 AM
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Are you aware that at some point the higher the tax rate, the lower the revenues? Even Obama knows this, but he thinks it "fairer" to take from the producers of this country and redistribute it to others as he sees fit.

Have you taken a look at the economy? Do you think that might also have something to do with revenues?

Are you denying that we have the highest corporate tax rate in the world?

And please don't give us your OWS scare tactics.
This is nothing more than regurgitated, Koch Brothers funded, Teabagger rhetoric and is completely unsubstantiated.

What happened to tax revenues when Clinton raised taxes? Hmmm?

That absolute fact of the matter is that the two are mutually exclusive of each other no matter how much the far right and the far left want to piss on each other over it, and anyone with an open mind sees that.

There is absolutely no proof that by giving away money to the ultra-wealthy in the form of even lower tax rates, with some insipid hope that they might create a job with that money (which we gave them) has ever worked, if fact the opposite occurs.

You're ideology is about as far from Libertarian as Riot's is.
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Old 09-20-2012, 10:13 AM
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This is nothing more than regurgitated, Koch Brothers funded, Teabagger rhetoric and is completely unsubstantiated.

What happened to tax revenues when Clinton raised taxes? Hmmm?

That absolute fact of the matter is that the two are mutually exclusive of each other no matter how much the far right and the far left want to piss on each other over it, and anyone with an open mind sees that.

There is absolutely no proof that by giving away money to the ultra-wealthy in the form of even lower tax rates, with some insipid hope that they might create a job with that money (which we gave them) has ever worked, if fact the opposite occurs.

You're ideology is about as far from Libertarian as Riot's is.
You are counting the fake internet economy bubble that Clinton was lucky enough to not have it burst after he left office? The little guys were the one left holding the bag while people like Mark Cuban own sports teams.

There is no proof that raising taxers produces higher revenue (in fact the opposite occurs) or helps the poor. There is no proof that raising taxes on the producers of the economy and having redistributed by a bunch of elitist, clueless jackasses who are putting their theories to use that they learned in the fake world of academia works.

You are calling yourself a libertarian with this post??????
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Old 09-20-2012, 10:20 AM
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You are counting the fake internet economy bubble that Clinton was lucky enough to not have it burst after he left office? The little guys were the one left holding the bag while people like Mark Cuban own sports teams.

There is no proof that raising taxers produces higher revenue (in fact the opposite occurs) or helps the poor. There is no proof that raising taxes on the producers of the economy and having redistributed by a bunch of elitist, clueless jackasses who are putting their theories to use that they learned in the fake world of academia works.

You are calling yourself a libertarian with this post??????
Again tax revenues at the lowest rate EVER WHILE Corporations are at their MOST PROFITABLE EVER.. So how has OBAMA raised peoples taxes?
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Old 09-20-2012, 10:24 AM
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Again tax revenues at the lowest rate EVER WHILE Corporations are at their MOST PROFITABLE EVER.. So how has OBAMA raised peoples taxes?
Your joking with me right? Why doesn't GE pay taxes? Because they bribe corrupt politicians like Obama, Reid, Pelosi, and the rest of your heroes. I am all for closing up tax loopholes.

By the way, who do I insult? If you don't insult me, I don't insult you, but if you come at me personally, then I will do the same.
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Old 09-20-2012, 10:27 AM
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Let's raise taxes on the wealthy, build more mosques in Egypt, and buy more solar panels from China. That will improve the economy.

Let's remain with our heads in the sand and our collective a$$es in air pretending planned terror attacks are spontaneous despite occurring on 9/11.
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Old 09-20-2012, 10:32 AM
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You are counting the fake internet economy bubble that Clinton was lucky enough to not have it burst after he left office? The little guys were the one left holding the bag while people like Mark Cuban own sports teams.

There is no proof that raising taxers produces higher revenue (in fact the opposite occurs) or helps the poor. There is no proof that raising taxes on the producers of the economy and having redistributed by a bunch of elitist, clueless jackasses who are putting their theories to use that they learned in the fake world of academia works.

You are calling yourself a libertarian with this post??????
Yes exactly.

Thanks again for proving my point.

It's real rocket science, so follow me:

When the economy is bustling along, tax revenues go up.
When the economy sucks, tax revenues go down.

It's a cyclical thing.

there is absolutely NOTHING that a president can do to change that, not by borrowing money to "stimulate" the economy, and certainly not by borrowing money to give away to the ultra-rich in the hopes that maybe, just maybe, they might throw us middle class peasants a crumb and create a job with it (which history has proven again and again over the last 30 years does not work either).

Nothing a President can do, by borrowing money, to fix this. Get it?

It get fixed by:

* getting out of unprovoked, unsubstantiated wars and uninvited occupation of sovereign nations.
* closing every single US military installation abroad unless by doing so creates a clear and present danger to our nation or our allies (ie. we don't need three military installation in Germany, they can pretty well fend for themselves.)
* legalizing and taxing the shi.t out of drugs and ending this 1 trillion+ dollar, 40 year old, failure
* legalizing and taxing all forms of gambling including sports gambling in all 50 states

there is just 4 ideas that would have this deficit cut in half in a year.

And that is straight up Libertarian, my friend.
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Old 09-20-2012, 10:35 AM
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Yes exactly.

Thanks again for proving my point.

It's real rocket science, so follow me:

When the economy is bustling along, tax revenues go up.
When the economy sucks, tax revenues go down.

It's a cyclical thing.

there is absolutely NOTHING that a president can do to change that, not by borrowing money to "stimulate" the economy, and certainly not by borrowing money to give away to the ultra-rich in the hopes that maybe, just maybe, they might throw us middle class peasants a crumb and create a job with it (which history has proven again and again over the last 30 years does not work either).

Nothing a President can do, by borrowing money, to fix this. Get it?

It get fixed by:

* getting out of unprovoked, unsubstantiated wars and uninvited occupation of sovereign nations.
* closing every single US military installation abroad unless by doing so creates a clear and present danger to our nation or our allies (ie. we don't need three military installation in Germany, they can pretty well fend for themselves.)
* legalizing and taxing the shi.t out of drugs and ending this 1 trillion+ dollar, 40 year old, failure
* legalizing and taxing all forms of gambling including sports gambling in all 50 states

there is just 4 ideas that would have this deficit cut in half in a year.

And that is straight up Libertarian, my friend.
And why does everyone Anti Romney have to be accused of wanting to raise taxes. I am not for raising taxes.
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Old 09-20-2012, 10:38 AM
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Yes exactly.

Thanks again for proving my point.

It's real rocket science, so follow me:

When the economy is bustling along, tax revenues go up.
When the economy sucks, tax revenues go down.

It's a cyclical thing.

there is absolutely NOTHING that a president can do to change that, not by borrowing money to "stimulate" the economy, and certainly not by borrowing money to give away to the ultra-rich in the hopes that maybe, just maybe, they might throw us middle class peasants a crumb and create a job with it (which history has proven again and again over the last 30 years does not work either).

Nothing a President can do, by borrowing money, to fix this. Get it?

It get fixed by:

* getting out of unprovoked, unsubstantiated wars and uninvited occupation of sovereign nations.
* closing every single US military installation abroad unless by doing so creates a clear and present danger to our nation or our allies (ie. we don't need three military installation in Germany, they can pretty well fend for themselves.)
* legalizing and taxing the shi.t out of drugs and ending this 1 trillion+ dollar, 40 year old, failure
* legalizing and taxing all forms of gambling including sports gambling in all 50 states

there is just 4 ideas that would have this deficit cut in half in a year.

And that is straight up Libertarian, my friend.
I agree with cyclical part. I disagree about tax revenue running along the cyclical part without it having anything to do with the tax rate.

I agree with all the other things you are saying.
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