You make the call.. Classic or Mile for Wise Dan?

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

The Dubai World Cup is not a Grade 1. For that matter, neither is the Woodbine Mile according to US Gradings.

Does what we call it even matter? Those are both considered very high class races. If any of our races used wins in a G1 as part of the criteria, the winners would get in I would imagine. As Doug says, the Woodbine Mile is North American G1. Now the Queen's Plate, that is another story.

[Calzone Lord]

I guess the Jockey Club of Canada does have separate rules from us.

The Canadian Graded Stakes Committee evaluates and reviews the Graded Stakes annually and determines whether races should be upgraded, downgraded or remain the same, based on a number of criteria including the performance of the races based on the NARC and BRIS ratings for the previous years. Also, to be eligible for consideration for Graded status in Canada, races must carry the following minimum purses: $250,000 for Grade 1; $150,000 for Grade 2 and $100,000 for Grade 3.

They have just 5 Grade 1's in Canada:

Canadian International, Woodbine Mile, Northern Dancer,
Nearctic Stakes, and the E.P. Taylor Stakes

All five of these races are run at Woodbine and all five on turf. They almost always tend to attract good shippers from the US and Europe.

Even though they are both technically called Gr 1 races, I had assumed the same grading committee handled both US and Canada races.

Like CJ said, even though the Queen's Plate is the most famous race in Canada, it's not a Graded Stake we recognize because it's not open.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Even though they are both technically called Gr 1 races, I had assumed the same grading committee handled both US and Canada races.

I don't think so, but could be wrong.

[Calzone Lord]

Here's the Chart of this years Queen's Plate. The chart has no Grade attached to it because we don't recognize it as a Graded Stakes race.

http://www1.drf.com/drfNCWeeklyHorse...0624&raceNo=10

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Here's the Chart of this years Queen's Plate. The chart has no Grade attached to it because we don't recognize it as a Graded Stakes race.

http://www1.drf.com/drfNCWeeklyHorse...0624&raceNo=10

I did not think any restricted to origin of breeding could be a graded race in the U.S.?

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

I did not think any restricted to origin of breeding could be a graded race in the U.S.?

Correct, we don't recognize it.

That's why the Sunshine Millions races can never be Graded as well.

The Woodbine Mile (AKA the old Atto Mile) is recognized.

http://www1.drf.com/row/pps/LEROIDESANIMAUX.pdf


The Queen's Plate won't be. It will get an R inside of a box.




As you can see with Victor Cooley's PP's -- the Molson Million doesn't exist anymore -- but it was recognized as a Grade 1 and a lot of good American 3yo's from the 90's like Skip Away, A. P. Indy, Louis Quatorze etc shipped for it.

[Sightseek]

Is there even a horse in training right now that has run 10 triple digit speed figures in a row?