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[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

Ban the helmet, 20% salary raise for everyone, teen age girls crowding the rinks, everybody makes money, lots of money. When these dopey Canadians realize this is entertainment, and when fans can see the players faces, they become bigger fans. Non fans, become fans. I bet a third of them would take them off now if they could.





"the least common thing in the world is common sense" - The Unpredictable Johnny Rodz

Yeah the NHL hasn't had any issues with concussions lately...

[golfer]

I think Larry Brooks is the best hockey writer out there, and he summarizes the situation quite well in today's article:


http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/devil...wLQvEQBP8hffvO

[Alabama Stakes]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Yeah the NHL hasn't had any issues with concussions lately...

if no one gets to wear one, the concussions go away. Man , you just don't get it do ya ?
Have you ever laced em up ? The helmet ruined hockey. Ask Bobby Orr, he'll tell you about it. He never wore one.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

if no one gets to wear one, the concussions go away. Man , you just don't get it do ya ?Have you ever laced em up ? The helmet ruined hockey. Ask Bobby Orr, he'll tell you about it. He never wore one.

you've got to be kidding me.

and the helmet 'ruined' hockey? i didn't know hockey had been ruined. i enjoy it as much now as i did back when there was no hockey rule. i suppose next you'll be advocating no helmets in the nfl as well? then they won't get helmet to helmet hits and everything will be a-ok. because we all know that head injuries only occur when there is a helmet to helmet hit.

[Alabama Stakes]

there are no helmet to helmet hits in hockey. Comparing football is apples and oranges. No helmets mean everyone is vulnerable, and the dirty play stops.They played for many years with no helmets and there were not many concussions. Alot of missing teeth, yes, but ther are better mouthpieces now. Don't forget there is a money incentive here, both for players and owners.

[3kings]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

there are no helmet to helmet hits in hockey. Comparing football is apples and oranges. No helmets mean everyone is vulnerable, and the dirty play stops.They played for many years with no helmets and there were not many concussions. Alot of missing teeth, yes, but ther are better mouthpieces now. Don't forget there is a money incentive here, both for players and owners.

I was going to type a long response to this but I will just summarize it. You are an idiot.

[Alabama Stakes]

Originally Posted by 3kings

I was going to type a long response to this but I will just summarize it. You are an idiot.

you are , no doubt, the nitwit who brought the myrrh. It's tough to type a long response when you have to respond to the truth, with no ammo to back you up

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

you are , no doubt, the nitwit who brought the myrrh. It's tough to type a long response when you have to respond to the truth, with no ammo to back you up

re-read post 13.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

there are no helmet to helmet hits in hockey. Comparing football is apples and oranges. No helmets mean everyone is vulnerable, and the dirty play stops.They played for many years with no helmets and there were not many concussions. Alot of missing teeth, yes, but ther are better mouthpieces now. Don't forget there is a money incentive here, both for players and owners.

yep, they played for years without helmets, and looking back, they were insane.

yes, i know there typically aren't helmet to helmet hits in hockey. that was my point. helmets in hockey prevent a variety of injuries besides a helmet to helmet, including pucks getting shot into someone's head. you think those puck hits would magically end because they stop wearing helmets? when a guy goes to block a shot in a power play kill, the puck won't ever have a chance of hitting him in the head? with modern sticks, with more flex, and more speed in a shot, you want to get hit in the head with that frozen rubber? no helmet, no visor. i think a lot of players like their visors. we had a guy in the nhl almost lose an eye because of no visor.
i tell you what, you go play a season as an experiment, without a helmet, and let me know how that works out for you.
and what exactly is the point of your last line?

[Alabama Stakes]

Originally Posted by Danzig

you've got to be kidding me.

and the helmet 'ruined' hockey? i didn't know hockey had been ruined. i enjoy it as much now as i did back when there was no hockey rule. i suppose next you'll be advocating no helmets in the nfl as well? then they won't get helmet to helmet hits and everything will be a-ok. because we all know that head injuries only occur when there is a helmet to helmet hit.

oh now I get it Tretiak...the ruskies used to wear helmets when the NHL wasn't wearing them. But then Fred Shero's Flyers showed the world what a bunch of little pussiez they really were. They were practically crying out there on the ice.

[pgiaco]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

if no one gets to wear one, the concussions go away. Man , you just don't get it do ya ?
Have you ever laced em up ? The helmet ruined hockey. Ask Bobby Orr, he'll tell you about it. He never wore one.

Wow, don't even know where to begin with this one...ever get hit in the head with a puck shot with a composite stick? Ever have a puck deflected up at your head? Ever take an inadvertent high stick to the head? Yup, you convinced me, the helmet is unnecessary.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by pgiaco

Wow, don't even know where to begin with this one...ever get hit in the head with a puck shot with a composite stick? Ever have a puck deflected up at your head? Ever take an inadvertent high stick to the head? Yup, you convinced me, the helmet is unnecessary.

Based on the majority of his posts, I would be willing to bet that he actually has received (probably several) blows to the head with pucks and maybe other various objects.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Based on the majority of his posts, I would be willing to bet that he actually has received (probably several) blows to the head with pucks and maybe other various objects.

i just wanna know how hockey devolved to baseball...i mean, i could understand boxing, but baseball?!

[-BT-]

I can somewhat understand the concept that players will police themselves and be less reckless if ALL players were to play without helmets. Having said that, if you gave the players a choice today, I would be astonished if anyone would willingly give up their lid to play without ANY head protection, and none of this should be a discussion b/c the NHL is going the exact opposite way of that anyways, trying to mandate visors like in JR’s and the AHL. Personally, not in favor of mandated visors, players who don’t wear one take that risk, willingly. You can’t compare Bobby Orr to Sidney Crosby, it can’t be done. Look at the pads they wore back then, shoulder pads might have been a flannel short, shin pads were rolled up newspapers, sticks, don’t even get me started… speed, again, night and day, strength not even in the same ballpark. What worked then, won’t work now, PERIOD.
And even though helmets don’t always prevent stupid sh!t from happening (see Patrick Swayze in Youngblood), they’re a must in this day and age


-bt-

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by -BT-

I can somewhat understand the concept that players will police themselves and be less reckless if ALL players were to play without helmets. Having said that, if you gave the players a choice today, I would be astonished if anyone would willingly give up their lid to play without ANY head protection, and none of this should be a discussion b/c the NHL is going the exact opposite way of that anyways, trying to mandate visors like in JR’s and the AHL. Personally, not in favor of mandated visors, players who don’t wear one take that risk, willingly. You can’t compare Bobby Orr to Sidney Crosby, it can’t be done. Look at the pads they wore back then, shoulder pads might have been a flannel short, shin pads were rolled up newspapers, sticks, don’t even get me started… speed, again, night and day, strength not even in the same ballpark. What worked then, won’t work now, PERIOD.
And even though helmets don’t always prevent stupid sh!t from happening (see Patrick Swayze in Youngblood), they’re a must in this day and age


-bt-

Awesome pull Mr. Thomas!