Tough Day For Obama

jms62 · #1 09-13-2012, 05:32 PM

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Jobless claims up, more QE, not having marines guard the embassy despite knowing about threats, not attending a daily security briefing in over a week, a moronic statement about Egypt, Clinton kissing radical Islamists asses, an attack on our embassy in Yemem. Brutal day for the completely overmatched and incompetent Obama. Today was the first day that Romney gained on Obama and that Obama's approval rating went down since the Democrat convention. Sayonara to the post-convention bounce for this idiot Obama. Expect further gains by Romney.

LOL... More QE just locked up the election. Most Americans associate the economy with the stock market and with open ended QE the market will roar into the election. It wont completely fall apart until the elections are over.

Danzig · #2 09-13-2012, 05:34 PM

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LOL... More QE just locked up the election. Most Americans associate the economy with the stock market and with open ended QE the market will roar into the election. It wont completely fall apart until the elections are over.

bah! you faithless american. romney will win and lead us to the promised land!!!

pointman · #3 09-13-2012, 05:59 PM

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LOL... More QE just locked up the election. Most Americans associate the economy with the stock market and with open ended QE the market will roar into the election. It wont completely fall apart until the elections are over.

Don't be so sure, the convention gains are now gone. The middle east crisis most likely will be the last nail in Obama's coffin. The snub of Netanyahu will begin to drive the Jewish vote to the Republican's which is a potential disaster for Obama's chances. The ship is sinking for Obama right now and I highly doubt he can get the water off fast enough.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ..._tracking_poll

Danzig · #4 09-13-2012, 07:15 PM

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Don't be so sure, the convention gains are now gone. The middle east crisis most likely will be the last nail in Obama's coffin. The snub of Netanyahu will begin to drive the Jewish vote to the Republican's which is a potential disaster for Obama's chances. The ship is sinking for Obama right now and I highly doubt he can get the water off fast enough.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ..._tracking_poll

yeah, but that's just one poll of many.

http://www.voanews.com/content/romne...n/1507542.html

WASHINGTON — In the U.S. presidential race, the latest public opinion polls suggest President Barack Obama has built a modest lead over his Republican challenger, former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney. But analysts say the race remains close as both campaigns prepare for a series of debates beginning October 3.

The most recent nationwide polls show President Barack Obama with a lead over challenger Mitt Romney of between three and seven points.

The surveys were made after the two party conventions and suggest President Obama received a bigger boost from his convention than Romney did from his. (did you see that last line, pain?)

.......note the gallup poll on the right hand side of the page.

and at the bottom:

In addition to a lead in national polls, President Obama also leads Romney in a number of closely contested so-called battleground states that will likely determine the outcome of the election November 6.

Speaking on VOA's Encounter program, Judd Legum of the Center for American Progress says President Obama has an advantage in the state-by-state competition for electoral college votes because he can afford to lose a few states he won four years ago and still win re-election.

a look at the polls, from slate:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slate...ils_by_1_.html

Thepaindispenser · #5 09-13-2012, 06:30 PM

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LOL... More QE just locked up the election. Most Americans associate the economy with the stock market and with open ended QE the market will roar into the election. It wont completely fall apart until the elections are over.

If QE is such a great thing then why are we still not even close to getting out of this mess?

jms62 · #6 09-13-2012, 06:35 PM

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If QE is such a great thing then why are we still not even close to getting out of this mess?

Did I say it was a good thing? Ever? It will keep the market artificially inflated into the election though. Now go back and read my post, Pointman.

Thepaindispenser · #7 09-13-2012, 06:46 PM

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Did I say it was a good thing? Ever? It will keep the market artificially inflated into the election though. Now go back and read my post, Pointman.

I just retread your post, yeah all the people who are unemployed, underemployed, discouraged, or stuck in a job that they hate will think the economy is humming because of the stock market. Or those who see little GDP growth and continued high unemployment will suddenly think the economy is strong. You were joking about that right? Most people vote based on their own experiences and financial situation.

pointman · #8 09-13-2012, 06:51 PM

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Did I say it was a good thing? Ever? It will keep the market artificially inflated into the election though. Now go back and read my post, Pointman.

Really, you jumping on the conspiracy ship? Not that I should have to explain this to anyone, but be rest assured that while I know and introduced PD to the website, which the last time I checked is not against the rules nor have I seen anything that requires me to explain that to anyone, I am not PD.

Anyone else need me to answer any questions?

geeker2 · #9 09-13-2012, 06:56 PM

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Really, you jumping on the conspiracy ship? Not that I should have to explain this to anyone, but be rest assured that while I know and introduced PD to the website, which the last time I checked is not against the rules nor have I seen anything that requires me to explain that to anyone, I am not PD.

Anyone else need me to answer any questions?

What ever happen to Morty?

pointman · #10 09-13-2012, 06:58 PM

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What ever happen to Morty?

That is a good question, it took me some time to appreciate him, but I really miss him now.

Wonder if anyone thinks I was him too!

geeker2 · #11 09-13-2012, 08:01 PM

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That is a good question, it took me some time to appreciate him, but I really miss him now.

Wonder if anyone thinks I was him too!

No Clyde I don't think you are Morty

Danzig · #12 09-13-2012, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman

Really, you jumping on the conspiracy ship? Not that I should have to explain this to anyone, but be rest assured that while I know and introduced PD to the website, which the last time I checked is not against the rules nor have I seen anything that requires me to explain that to anyone, I am not PD.

Anyone else need me to answer any questions?

what is your name?
what is your quest?
what is the air speed velocity of an unladen swallow?

MaTH716 · #13 09-14-2012, 09:13 AM

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LOL... More QE just locked up the election. Most Americans associate the economy with the stock market and with open ended QE the market will roar into the election. It wont completely fall apart until the elections are over.

J, I honestly don't know if that's the truth anymore. Let's face it the middle class is hurting right now. If they are lucky to have a job, they probably haven't had a raise in years. The prices of everything are going up, except on their houses. People have very little money to live, let alone invest into the market. If anything it might be the inverse effect and the people who are struggling while working 2 jobs are getting jealous that the rich are getting richer and they have to continue to live life walking on a tightrope with no net. I want to believe that people are starting to understand how bad it is despite what the stock market does.

jms62 · #14 09-14-2012, 09:47 AM

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J, I honestly don't know if that's the truth anymore. Let's face it the middle class is hurting right now. If they are lucky to have a job, they probably haven't had a raise in years. The prices of everything are going up, except on their houses. People have very little money to live, let alone invest into the market. If anything it might be the inverse effect and the people who are struggling while working 2 jobs are getting jealous that the rich are getting richer and they have to continue to live life walking on a tightrope with no net. I want to believe that people are starting to understand how bad it is despite what the stock market does.

Matt if they don't do QE3 and the markets ****ing tank big time going into November how do you think that would have helped Obama? Jimmy Rogers feels the same way, Bernanke did it to keep his job. We shall see. I see it as a ****ing boondoggle. Think about the law of unintended consequences, Fed is saying they will keep doing it until the labor market improves. The net affect is that it will inflate the markets and put a floor under it. Greedy bastard CEO's are the ones that will seriously profit from this. Why would they hire?

MaTH716 · #15 09-14-2012, 09:57 AM

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Matt if they don't do QE3 and the markets ****ing tank big time going into November how do you think that would have helped Obama? Jimmy Rogers feels the same way, Bernanke did it to keep his job. We shall see. I see it as a ****ing boondoggle. Think about the law of unintended consequences, Fed is saying they will keep doing it until the labor market improves. The net affect is that it will inflate the markets and put a floor under it. Greedy bastard CEO's are the ones that will seriously profit from this. Why would they hire?

I don't disagree with you there, my point was about people (middle-class) thinking things are good/getting better just because the market is flying.
I want to believe that people are starting to realize that this enitre thing is a house of cards.

jms62 · #16 09-14-2012, 10:44 AM

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I don't disagree with you there, my point was about people (middle-class) thinking things are good/getting better just because the market is flying.
I want to believe that people are starting to realize that this enitre thing is a house of cards.

Matt... Honey Boo Boo drew more viewers then the conventions. I rest my case.

MaTH716 · #17 09-14-2012, 12:48 PM

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Matt... Honey Boo Boo drew more viewers then the conventions. I rest my case.

Gotta admit, that Honey Boo Boo is pretty charming........................

Cannon Shell · #18 09-14-2012, 05:08 PM

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Matt... Honey Boo Boo drew more viewers then the conventions. I rest my case.

Thinking that viewing the conventions will help people be educated about the economy is a stretch, no?

An educated person generally will see through the rhetoric and view the entire process as a waste of time. The uneducated is going to be led astray in either direction.

Let's face it there is no economic plan that will benefit the country AND get the politicians in charge re-elected.

Riot · #19 09-14-2012, 05:20 PM

The transfer of money out of the middle and lower classes to the wealthiest has occurred steadily over the past 50 years. It's exactly the financial policies that the American populace has voted for. And now they have it.

Danzig · #20 09-14-2012, 06:52 PM

[quote=Cannon Shell;890095]Thinking that viewing the conventions will help people be educated about the economy is a stretch, no?

An educated person generally will see through the rhetoric and view the entire process as a waste of time. The uneducated is going to be led astray in either direction.

Let's face it there is no economic plan that will benefit the country AND get the politicians in charge re-elected.[/QUOTE]