9/8: Belmont (6th-10th); Arlington (6th-9th); LaDowns (8th-11th)

jms62 · #1 09-08-2012, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

Yup.. As discussed extensively on radio, TV and here for the last 6 weeks, P4's were particularly hard to come by. Played from behind the whole meet.

Steve are you still a fan of the .50 P4's. A couple years ago 2 or 3 P4's would carry someone for the meet. Not any longer.

Kasept · #2 09-08-2012, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62

Steve are you still a fan of the .50 P4's. A couple years ago 2 or 3 P4's would carry someone for the meet. Not any longer.

I'm OK with the .50. I was live to 4 horses in one spot for $1,200-$2,500 and on another occasion to a couple horses for $3,000. They didn't get it done. So be it. Then there were another 6-8 misses that were harrowing for smaller but real money. As we talked about 10 days in, adjustments needed to be made for more DD & P3 play and that went a long way towards balancing the ledger. I personally played my old fashioned Win and Exacta backwheels to positive effect. The biggest challenge at Saratoga was that there were unendingly large fields with difficult equations. The .50 increment was still OK, but you had to string the 4 winners together!

ADJMK · #3 09-08-2012, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62

Steve are you still a fan of the .50 P4's. A couple years ago 2 or 3 P4's would carry someone for the meet. Not any longer.

Just shows how hard it is to string 4 races together especially at the Spa when the sequences include maiden races with the majority first timers or those dreaded 5.5f turf sprints. I thought that when .50 P4's became available it would kill the payoffs and be a lot easier to hit. Experience has shown that is not the case and the extra coverage you can get for .50 still doesn't help you include the improbable winners.

Kasept · #4 09-08-2012, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ADJMK

Just shows how hard it is to string 4 races together especially at the Spa when the sequences include maiden races with the majority first timers or those dreaded 5.5f turf sprints. I thought that when .50 P4's became available it would kill the payoffs and be a lot easier to hit. Experience has shown that is not the case and the extra coverage you can get for .50 still doesn't help you include the improbable winners.

They just had your basic $9,500 P4 (.50) at Belmont...

BEL $40,700 C/O SUNDAY

ADJMK · #5 09-08-2012, 05:58 PM

Belmont results today make the Spa look formful. Four super payouts > $24,000 for a $1. Sheez hit one of those even for .10 and you had a pretty good afternoon.

jms62 · #6 09-08-2012, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ADJMK

Just shows how hard it is to string 4 races together especially at the Spa when the sequences include maiden races with the majority first timers or those dreaded 5.5f turf sprints. I thought that when .50 P4's became available it would kill the payoffs and be a lot easier to hit. Experience has shown that is not the case and the extra coverage you can get for .50 still doesn't help you include the improbable winners.

Big DD's like pointman plays seems to be the ticket 1x2 for 20 bucks