tha lava man thread....

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

The defense rests. If you think any East Coast trainers aren't shipping out there because they're scared of facing that crew, plus the four I mentioned.. Ugh..

The fact is that they don't ship and try very often. I still say if it was that easy they would be in on Friday and out on Sunday.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV

The fact is that they don't ship and try very often. I still say if it was that easy they would be in on Friday and out on Sunday.

I never said it was easy. My point is it's the surface, not the competition, that the East Coast trainers are leery of.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

I never said it was easy. My point is it's the surface, not the competition, that the East Coast trainers are leery of.

I have a feeling with the sythetic surfaces we will see more east coast horses going west for the big purse races. It just makes no sense to send them out to the dirt tracks now and risk injury.

[King Glorious]

Too many guys that I have too much respect for, guys like Mandella, Drysdale, McAnally....are based in California. If the tracks were really that unsafe and dangerous, I don't think they would be here.

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for once the guy has a point and I have always tried to express that same point in this whole poly argument.

cali tracks are fast.
does not mean they are more dangerous than a track in say, Maryland or New Jersey.

maybe Im the only one, but I watch Hollypark every day in hopes that horses will break down so that this whole safety angle will go away in the debate.



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[Danzig]

Originally Posted by repent

maybe Im the only one, but I watch Hollypark every day in hopes that horses will break down so that this whole safety angle will go away in the debate.



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i'd imagine it's a very safe bet that you're the only one who'd want to win a debate that way.

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Originally Posted by Danzig188

i'd imagine it's a very safe bet that you're the only one who'd want to win a debate that way.

well,
when horses start breaking down on that crap then thats one less thing the poly party can point to as a reason for the surface.

horses die.
its part of racing.
ask anyone who bet on Bayakoa if they were upset about Go For Wand breaking down.
from now on, if its going to happen, I hope it happens on polytrack.



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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

You're kidding right. Not even YOU could be this big an a$$hole. You are hoping for horses breaking down, so you can make a point in a debate. Karma man, karma....

the debate is bigger than any one horse's life.
this is the future of American racing we are talking about.


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[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by repent

the debate is bigger than any one horse's life.
this is the future of American racing we are talking about.


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Wow... I wouldn't wish death upon any horse to end a debate. Crazy shiat...

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Let me get a shovel, so I can rid the area of all of the bull$hit you are spewing. I would go out on a limb and say 99% of people that want to be right about poly not being the end all be all to horse safety still aren't looking to see horses, or anyone injured.

dont kid yourself.
the main argument, especially in CA, is the safety of the horses and rders.
in KY and the east coast, it has more to do with weather and racing days.
but in CA, they have fast tracks anyway.
so its really about some percieved level of safety.

so with that in mind, if we are going to win the state of CA, we have to beat them on the safety issue.
we need horses to start getting hurt and breaking down.
the sooner the better.
have you seen those TVG "cushion track" propaganda commercials.
they interview like 10 trainers about the new, "safe", surface.



and dont act like horse players are so freaking concerned about the safety of horses.
dont tell me that when your horse is in a dog fight in the stretch, that you are not hoping for something to go wrong with the other horse.


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