Convention Highlights

[Thepaindispenser]

Yeah what a disaster the convention was, Romney "only" got a 5-point bump in the polls. I can't wait to hear all of those old angry, hypocrites like Kerry, Pelosi, Reid, and Biden speak next week topped off by that lying, idiot, hypocrite, incompetent failure Obama. Expect another 5-point for Romney after that debacle next week.

[Danzig]

Candidates always get a bump in the polls just after their convention. It means nothing in the grand scheme of things.

[Thepaindispenser]

They don't always get 5-point bumps and it will mean something if Obama falls flat next week.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser

They don't always get 5-point bumps and it will mean something if Obama falls flat next week.

yeah, you're wrong:

'Gallup's data dating back to 1964 indicates that presidential candidates gain, on average, about five percentage points in the polls immediately following their party’s convention.'


http://www.economist.com/blogs/democ...08/conventions

[bigrun]

SOP after any convention....Big O will get it back plus some after they lay out their plan to clean up Dumya's disastrous 8 years..

[my miss storm cat]

I haven't read everything down here lately by any means... it's very easy to get sucked in and I just can't let all this time go by defending what I believe because really... why bother (oh and I'm not insulting anyone who is down here a lot. Just for the record...) BUT the times I have looked down here? It's amazing how the people who are the most vocal Obama supporters are spedning all this time talking about the convention.

I mean thread after thread after thread...

Just seems kind of funny to me but what do I know.

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

I haven't read everything down here lately by any means... it's very easy to get sucked in and I just can't let all this time go by defending what I believe because really... why bother (oh and I'm not insulting anyone who is down here a lot. Just for the record...) BUT the times I have looked down here? It's amazing how the people who are the most vocal Obama supporters are spedning all this time talking about the convention.

I mean thread after thread after thread...

Just seems kind of funny to me but what do I know.

I laughed ...you know a lot

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by geeker2

I laughed ...you know a lot

thepezdispenser will just say that's a Soros poll.

Both party tards have their typical dismissive retorts to facts. They love being stupid and controlled. Nothing makes them happier than to give up cognitive reasoning so they can have the opportunity one day to take a picture with their phone of their beloved candidate at a rally.

You aren't cool if you don't follow the party line. I mean...who in the hell is going to like your facebook posts if you're a crazy libertarian?

[Thepaindispenser]

The five points is actually the median bounce not the average bounce since 1964 and it is all about momentum which has clearly been in Romney's favor since Ryan was named VP. It is hard to believe that Obama will recover those points considering that they are trotting out the same old, lame politicians who will be talking about the same failed policies, plus the August unemployment numbers will come out less than 12 hours after this clown Obama gives his lying speech right off of the teleprompter.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by bigrun

SOP after any convention....Big O will get it back plus some after they lay out their plan to clean up Dumya's disastrous 8 years..

was this written with sarcasm or truth?

I dont believe Bush has been president for the past 4 disasterous years... this dude Big O has been the president.

What a coincidence that Nancy Pelosi was in charge of Congress for those last 2 disasterous years of the Bush Presidency... followed by four years of Obama disaster.

This is a bipartisan recession/depression. It includes republicans, democrats, the rich wall street folks, and the American people who spent way beyond their means and allowed themselves to be duped by the wall street folks and the government. We all helped cause this.

[Antitrust32]

I love the dems disingenuous claim of 4.5 million jobs created in the past 4 years.

Well, yes, you cannot say its a lie, because there have been 4.5 million jobs created. Just happens that 4.2 million jobs were also lost. There has been a net gain of 300,000 jobs... aka 0.1% of the American population.

Way to be dishonest and not lie at the same time. I believe that is what Democrats do best.

[pmacdaddy]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I love the dems disingenuous claim of 4.5 million jobs created in the past 4 years.

Well, yes, you cannot say its a lie, because there have been 4.5 million jobs created. Just happens that 4.2 million jobs were also lost. There has been a net gain of 300,000 jobs... aka 0.1% of the American population.

Way to be dishonest and not lie at the same time. I believe that is what Democrats do best.

I had what I truly believe was a fine meet at Saratoga this year. During the 5th week I made several thousand dollars, far better than I did in the 5th week of 2011. Troughout the meet, I cashed thousands more in winning tickets. I'm so wonderful.

Footnote - total losses significantly exceeded total winnings...

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by pmacdaddy

I had what I truly believe was a fine meet at Saratoga this year. During the 5th week I made several thousand dollars, far better than I did in the 5th week of 2011. Troughout the meet, I cashed thousands more in winning tickets. I'm so wonderful.

Footnote - total losses significantly exceeded total winnings...

This is the politics forum, have you not learned yet that math is unwelcome here.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by pmacdaddy

I had what I truly believe was a fine meet at Saratoga this year. During the 5th week I made several thousand dollars, far better than I did in the 5th week of 2011. Troughout the meet, I cashed thousands more in winning tickets. I'm so wonderful.

Footnote - total losses significantly exceeded total winnings...

Yes, well, cute analogy, but the comparison of the jobs numbers we are talking about would indeed be considered the entire meet results, your net, not just a week.

Nice try, but way off on the analogy attempt.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Riot

Yes, well, cute analogy, but the comparison of the jobs numbers we are talking about would indeed be considered the entire meet results, your net, not just a week.

Nice try, but way off on the analogy attempt.

No it is not, you are not including the loss in public sector jobs. Stop your consistent lying and attempts to manipulate the statistics in a direction positive for Obama.

[pmacdaddy]

Originally Posted by Riot

Yes, well, cute analogy, but the comparison of the jobs numbers we are talking about would indeed be considered the entire meet results, your net, not just a week.

Nice try, but way off on the analogy attempt.

Main point is that 4.5M number is some twisted spin. Embarassing actually.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I love the dems disingenuous claim of 4.5 million jobs created in the past 4 years.

Well, yes, you cannot say its a lie, because there have been 4.5 million jobs created. Just happens that 4.2 million jobs were also lost. There has been a net gain of 300,000 jobs... aka 0.1% of the American population.

Way to be dishonest and not lie at the same time. I believe that is what Democrats do best.

To start climbing out of the disastrous job loss recession/near depression hole Bush put us in, we needed 3.9 million jobs to replace what Bush lost. 800,000 jobs lost alone the month Obama took office.

So denigrating all those jobs created to replace the ones Bush lost is beyond ridiculous. Every single one of those jobs was needed, and yeah, we're 300,000 ahead at this point. Yes, we need more.

You expected a Republican president to create more jobs? Seriously? The party that won't do any job help at all, and fires public workers?

And you might note the majority of those jobs created were private sector jobs, because the Republican Governors were laying off public sector workers left and right, for an overall net LOSS.

Saying everything below the horizontal line of zero - fighting back to zero baseline via job creation - was useless and of no importance and deserves zero credit is false and ridiculous. Of course the Dems get credit for creating those jobs.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Riot

To start climbing out of the disastrous job loss recession/near depression hole Bush put us in, we needed 3.9 million jobs to replace what Bush lost. 800,000 jobs lost alone the month Obama took office.

So denigrating all those jobs created to replace the ones Bush lost is beyond ridiculous. Every single one of those jobs was needed, and yeah, we're 300,000 ahead at this point. Yes, we need more.

You expected a Republican president to create more jobs? Seriously? The party that won't do any job help at all, and fires public workers?

And you might note the majority of those jobs created were private sector jobs, because the Republican Governors were laying off public sector workers left and right, for an overall net LOSS.

Saying everything below the horizontal line of zero - fighting back to zero - was useless and of no importance is false and ridiculous. Of course the Dems get credit for creating those jobs.

Nonsense. Obama promised a recovery with the stimulis and all he did was spend a lot of money for nothing. Most of the jobs lost would have been added without government intervention. Government intervention has done nothing but waste a ton of money, made businessman scared to hire and increased the debt to over 16 trillion. Obama is a disaster and there is no way to spin it.

By the way, Bush did not create the recession, Democrats did. It started with Clinton forcing Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to make riskier and riskier loans which Barney Frank made even worse during Bush's term. Bush is at fault for not stopping the Democrats from forcing banks to give loans to people who could never afford them.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I love the dems disingenuous claim of 4.5 million jobs created in the past 4 years.

Well, yes, you cannot say its a lie, because there have been 4.5 million jobs created. Just happens that 4.2 million jobs were also lost. There has been a net gain of 300,000 jobs... aka 0.1% of the American population.

Way to be dishonest and not lie at the same time. I believe that is what Democrats do best.

Lori, even a net gain of 300,000 jobs is inaccurate, that is the figure for the private sector. However, when you add in the fact that there has been a loss of over 1 million public sector jobs since Obama took office, the picture becomes clear. There are less people working today than there were when Obama took office. This claim is a total outright lie based upon manipulation of statistics by taking the lowest amount of people working during the Obama administration and comparing it to today and by excluding public sector non-farm jobs.

What else should we expect from an Administration that attempts to claim that unemployment is vastly lower than it actually is (which is still vastly higher than the rate that Obama promised when he shoved his stimulis through a partisan Congress) by refusing to count those people who have run the course of their unemployment benefits and have given up hope looking for work?

I can't wait to hear the Democrat spin on the highest ever amount of American's now on food stamps. The 76 billion spent on food stamps last year is more than double what was spent on the program when Obama took office.

This administration outright lies to the American people and morons like Riot and Big Run fall for it hook, line and sinker. This is a party whose 2016 frontrunner caught on the spot on Sunday honestly answered no to the question "are American's better off today than 4 years ago" only to backpeddal the next day after the Obama's handlers got his hands on him and now claims we are better off. It is the party of lies that only the truly stupid believe.