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Old 08-28-2012, 08:45 PM
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Bums for Wednesday:

Assiniboia Downs Race #2: Power Coffee

Delaware Park Race #6: Shezoutahere

Del Mar Race #5: Rock On Misty

Del Mar Race #6: A Kings Life

Del Mar Race #8: Superchupacabra

Evangeline Downs Race #1: Chelsea Diablo

Hoosier Race #2: Rip Snorter

Hoosier Race #3: My Ten Dollars

Hoosier Race #10: Perpetuate

Penn National Race #1: Three Kisses and Sea's Sweet Billie

Penn National Race #3: Saratoga Mo

Penn National Race #6: Kash Kow Kaz

Penn National Race #8: Manhattan Red

Presque Isle Downs Race #4: Eve the Dancer

Presque Isle Downs Race #5: Indian Empire

Portland Meadows Race #5: Stelladelnorth and Lei Of Gold

Remington Race #2: Bambino La Scalla and City Legend

Remington Race #5: Ardythe Mcgee

Remington Race #9: Lacie's Bonus

Saratoga Race #2: Money in Return

Saratoga Race #6: Perfect Footprint

Saratoga Race #10: Stormin Esther

Suffolk Race #1: Bright Alice

Suffolk Race #4: Double Devilish

Suffolk Race #6: Esther Iron Cross and Coyote Eyes

Suffolk Race #10: Coby and Awesome Preacher

Thistle Downs Race #3: Kinkcachu

Woodbine Race #2: Trajectamax

Woodbine Race #7: Prince Nyke
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Old 08-28-2012, 09:55 PM
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I hope you don't get impatient with this. I think there are very few people on the planet who could pull this off. just sayin...
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Old 08-28-2012, 10:26 PM
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I hope you don't get impatient with this. I think there are very few people on the planet who could pull this off. just sayin...
Really? I don't think it would be that difficult, though the rapidity with which he is doing it is impressive.
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Old 08-28-2012, 10:38 PM
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Really? I don't think it would be that difficult, though the rapidity with which he is doing it is impressive.
I don't think anyone could do it faster, and if I had to bet my life on it I'd want Doug at the controls. It's not as easy at it seems.
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Really? I don't think it would be that difficult, though the rapidity with which he is doing it is impressive.
It's a lot trickier than it looks -- especially doing it 24 hours and before scratches.

There have been scores of winners in the 40/1 to 90/1 range in different parts of the country almost every single day. Most of them you never hear about -- other than like that bomb at Calder who won with a Mine That Bird like move and was absurdly mentioned in the Louisville blog and in a thread here.

Today was a very slow day because it was Tuesday and not many tracks ran -- but you had an $88 winner and a $68 winner. You had one race where a 1/9 favorite broke down. You had another race where a horse won by 32 lengths at Finger Lakes. Last Tuesday, you had two 46/1 shots run 1st and 2nd in the same race. Strange stuff even happens on Tuesdays when almost no tracks run.

You see some weird stuff in that some of these bums are way overbet. The horse in the 5th race at Suffolk today went off at 23/1 odds and finished 6th of seven. Amazingly, a horse who looked far better in there went off at 45/1 and finished 3rd.
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Old 08-28-2012, 11:01 PM
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Here's the form of the monster who won by 32 lengths today:



Chart:

http://www1.drf.com/drfPDFChartRaces...=20120828&RN=1

The 2nd place finisher had finished 14.5 lengths in front of this winner Meesh on July 17th just two starts back.
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Old 08-28-2012, 11:07 PM
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The nine who ran today all got smoked.

226 down, 774 more to go.
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Old 08-29-2012, 02:13 AM
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The bums today managed to blow a decent-for-a-Tuesday $3,355 bringing the grand total up to $272,062.

Tomorrow looks like it could be a banner day and could easily push over 300k.
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Old 08-29-2012, 09:20 AM
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It's a lot trickier than it looks -- especially doing it 24 hours and before scratches.

There have been scores of winners in the 40/1 to 90/1 range in different parts of the country almost every single day. Most of them you never hear about -- other than like that bomb at Calder who won with a Mine That Bird like move and was absurdly mentioned in the Louisville blog and in a thread here.

Today was a very slow day because it was Tuesday and not many tracks ran -- but you had an $88 winner and a $68 winner. You had one race where a 1/9 favorite broke down. You had another race where a horse won by 32 lengths at Finger Lakes. Last Tuesday, you had two 46/1 shots run 1st and 2nd in the same race. Strange stuff even happens on Tuesdays when almost no tracks run.

You see some weird stuff in that some of these bums are way overbet. The horse in the 5th race at Suffolk today went off at 23/1 odds and finished 6th of seven. Amazingly, a horse who looked far better in there went off at 45/1 and finished 3rd.
One thing I used to do pretty well was eliminate horses that I thought had little to no chance of winning. Like Big Brown in the Belmont, for instance.

Given sufficient time and motivation, and sticking to circuits I follow, I'd be able to do this.
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Old 08-29-2012, 10:14 AM
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Big Brown had a shoe come unhinged in the Belmont. That's why I believe he was beaten a pole by D' Tara and racing in extreme discomfort suddenly going into the 1st turn. I picked against Big Brown in my column and took Denis Of Cork in that race (who was 2nd and came out of it with an injury)

I was even mocked by several different posters on this board for knocking Big Brown's Preakness win and saying I felt Denis Of Cork might have beaten him had he run that day.

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sho...2&postcount=32

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sho...5&postcount=12

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sho...3&postcount=22


Still, saying Big Brown had little or no chance of winning that race is silly. He was by far the best horse in the race and even though his Preakness was a massively overrated performance ... he had a magician like Dutrow Jr. training him and his Kentucky Derby performance was spectacular.
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Old 08-29-2012, 04:11 PM
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Big Brown had a shoe come unhinged in the Belmont. That's why I believe he was beaten a pole by D' Tara and racing in extreme discomfort suddenly going into the 1st turn. I picked against Big Brown in my column and took Denis Of Cork in that race (who was 2nd and came out of it with an injury)

I was even mocked by several different posters on this board for knocking Big Brown's Preakness win and saying I felt Denis Of Cork might have beaten him had he run that day.

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sho...2&postcount=32

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sho...5&postcount=12

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sho...3&postcount=22


Still, saying Big Brown had little or no chance of winning that race is silly. He was by far the best horse in the race and even though his Preakness was a massively overrated performance ... he had a magician like Dutrow Jr. training him and his Kentucky Derby performance was spectacular.
If you recall, you chastised me mightily for my private take going into the Belmont, that I wouldn't have been surprised if he breaks down or DNF's in the Belmont.

You really think a thrown shoe caused that to happen, and I said that he looked like he was a very sore and unsound horse during the Preakness stretch run?

In fact, you called me an idiot for wanting to drop him from the TVG fantasy contest at that point. The only thing that stopped me from dropping him is that I had no idea who could possibly be used in his place, but I was completely convinced he couldn't win.

Maybe you can get Riot to post some article for you explaining how it was the shoe!
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Old 08-29-2012, 04:15 PM
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Still, saying Big Brown had little or no chance of winning that race is silly. He was by far the best horse in the race and even though his Preakness was a massively overrated performance ... he had a magician like Dutrow Jr. training him and his Kentucky Derby performance was spectacular.
That's another thing, his performance drop from KY to the Preakness was huge.

Even without the obvious soreness he showed, he was a great bet against.
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Old 08-29-2012, 11:23 PM
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29 ran tonight, nary a one hit the board.
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Old 08-30-2012, 02:18 AM
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Yet amongst all the futility of the bums they somehow managed to induce $23,813 in win bets, bringing the grand total so far to $295,875, an impressive total, but somewhat short of the 300k predicted. But the bums are still on pace right now to lose $1 million, although it may be tough to keep up that pace once Saratoga and Del Mar close.
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