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Old 08-21-2012, 07:39 PM
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Brown is being endorsed by democrats and leading with the independents (the majority of Mass voters). People ARE voting on the economy and statements like "you didn't build that on your own" (first spoken by Warren, then echoed by Obama), "we should follow China's example on building our infrastructure", and lamenting student loans when she took down six figure salary as a "minority" professor at Harvard are killing her here. She has even resorted to campaigning in the Northampton, Amherst area (as liberal an area that you will ever find). She can't even rally support from them. Go back to 2010 and the special election between Brown and Coakley and she was always leading in the polls by double digits.
While I have no doubt Obama will win in Mass., I think it will be alot closer than people think. The majority of my family are lifelong democrats and they are voting for Romney. They all say the same thing-he was a good governor and the economy has gotten worse and the spending is out of control.
As I said, if Brown can distance himself from the BatShiat Crazy Current Republican party, as he's aggressively trying to do, and their obvious desire to return to the 1800's as far as women's rights are concerned, he'll continue to do well.

He's an old-fashioned Republican, not a lunatic John Bircher. Between Brown and Warren, I'd usually vote for Brown. But not now, not until the GOP comes to it's senses again.
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Old 08-21-2012, 07:51 PM
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As I said, if Brown can distance himself from the BatShiat Crazy Current Republican party, as he's aggressively trying to do, and their obvious desire to return to the 1800's as far as women's rights are concerned, he'll continue to do well.

He's an old-fashioned Republican, not a lunatic John Bircher. Between Brown and Warren, I'd usually vote for Brown. But not now, not until the GOP comes to it's senses again.
Since Brown took office, he has voted with his party 54% so I don't think he has to try too "aggressively" to distance himself. He's known as an independent thus his popularity in this state.
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Old 08-21-2012, 07:57 PM
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"In fact, he's cut federal spending, he's cut the deficit, he's raised GDP."

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/defau...2%20Update.jpg

The past 2 years, the US has added 2.42 times more debt than it has added GDP.
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Old 08-21-2012, 08:19 PM
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"In fact, he's cut federal spending, he's cut the deficit, he's raised GDP."

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/defau...2%20Update.jpg

The past 2 years, the US has added 2.42 times more debt than it has added GDP.
Yes, but I'll point out that's a different metric than what I mentioned. The debt has increased, as we are still paying for old things, with interest. We could stop spending today and the debt will continue to rise.

I do believe our GDP to debt ratio right now is not as fearsome as some think, less than Reagans I believe (have to look it up, don't hold me to it)

But Obama's policies and programs have not added massively to the debt. He's cut federal spending a bit. He's cut our deficit a bit. The "big spender" thing just isn't true. He's expanded Medicare to last another 8 years. The GDP has gone up a bit. All with just the initial, very half,hearted stimulus, and about zero further action by Congress or the Fed.
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Old 08-21-2012, 08:27 PM
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Riot there is no way you can spin that Obama has cut the deficit and reduced spending. He has outspent, added more to the deficit, and has played more golf than any President in the history of this country.

You are trying to give him credit for raising GDP???? This the worst recovery in 65 years. By the way, historically the worse the recession the stronger the recovery, that is until Obamanomics.
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Old 08-21-2012, 08:30 PM
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Oh by the way Obama does suck.
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Old 08-21-2012, 09:53 PM
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Thepaindispenser: Riot there is no way you can spin that Obama has cut the deficit
Sigh. You lie.



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and reduced spending.
You lie.


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He has outspent,
You lie.



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added more to the deficit,
You lie. See above.

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and has played more golf than any President in the history of this country.
You even lie about this:

At this point in their presidencies:
George W. Bush had spent 180 days at his ranch
Ronald Reagan had taken 112 vacation days at his ranch.
President Obama has taken 61 vacation days

You're a proven liar, and a blathering, hating idiot, with zero veracity. You are a very good joke, however

Oh,yeah - no, Obama doesn't suck. Suck on that, Lil' Sockpuppet
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Old 08-21-2012, 09:21 PM
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Obama has personally dismantled the Constitution of the United States with regard to the 4th,5th, and 6th amendments and has spent us into receivership with failed, ignorant, myopic economic policy he continues to cram down our throats.

Oh, and he is arming virtually every govt. agency with hollow point bullets to quell the impending uprising which is virtually unavoidable at this point.
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Riot there is no way you can spin that Obama has cut the deficit and reduced spending. He has outspent, added more to the deficit, and has played more golf than any President in the history of this country.

You are trying to give him credit for raising GDP???? This the worst recovery in 65 years. By the way, historically the worse the recession the stronger the recovery, that is until Obamanomics.
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"In fact, he's cut federal spending, he's cut the deficit, he's raised GDP."

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/defau...2%20Update.jpg

The past 2 years, the US has added 2.42 times more debt than it has added GDP.

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Old 08-21-2012, 09:35 PM
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Ah, the fact-free: the birthers, the conspiracy theorists, the racists, the bigots, the haters, and the simple loons.

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Old 08-21-2012, 09:57 PM
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Ah, the fact-free: the birthers, the conspiracy theorists, the racists, the bigots, the haters, and the simple loons.

Here's another chart for you. Sop it up you slanderous pig. Taking credit for fake charts from an ass clown that can't get a budget approved.

http://www.usdebtclock.org/
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Old 08-22-2012, 07:13 AM
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yeah, he does suck. he absolutely does. and even tho romney also sucks, the polls remain close. why? because obama sucks. if he didn't, he'd be thrashing the sucky republican nominee.


the latest approval ratings:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/116479/ba...-approval.aspx

note who were the only two presidents at this point with a lower rating. and he is below average at this point. that sums up his term to me; below average.

and here's this:

Tuesday, August 21, 2012

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows Mitt Romney attracting support from 45% of voters nationwide, while President Obama earns the vote from 44%. Five percent (5%) prefer some other candidate, and six percent (6%) are undecided.


http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ..._tracking_poll
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Old 08-22-2012, 09:49 AM
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"In fact, he's cut federal spending, he's cut the deficit, he's raised GDP."

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/defau...2%20Update.jpg

The past 2 years, the US has added 2.42 times more debt than it has added GDP.
Math has no place here.
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Old 08-22-2012, 09:53 AM
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Math has no place here.
...but it was a beautiful chart!
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Byk would have been wise to shut this room down years ago. Flat out embarrassing at this point.
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Old 08-22-2012, 11:21 AM
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Byk would have been wise to shut this room down years ago. Flat out embarrassing at this point.
The Paddock is unquestionably more embarrassing. The defense of NYRA is way above Riot's level of insanity or any conservative in this sub-forum.

The premier meet of the summer has been absolutely abysmal.
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Byk would have been wise to shut this room down years ago. Flat out embarrassing at this point.
I think he allows it to keep certain posters quarantined.
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