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Old 08-21-2012, 02:52 PM
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I said this current congress has introduced over 40 bills to curtail abortion and womens rights.

You demand to see the bills.

I post 38 of them.

Again: if you are taking the position that the Republicans have not introduced multiple bills attempting to curtail abortion and women's rights, that's as easily proven wrong as reading todays news.

That's just a crazy, wrong position, as wrong as saying the sky is not blue. It's common knowlege. The GOP even brags about it. And you say it doesn't exist?

Seriously - is that what you are saying? Because that's so crazy, I'm trying to see if I am misunderstanding you.

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First month of new GOP House, 2010

GOP Introduces Four Anti-Abortion Bills Into Congress; Other Women's Issues at Risk
http://www.seniorwomen.com/news/inde...issues-at-risk

Since taking control of the House last month, Republicans have introduced several major anti-abortion bills that women's rights activists say could place severe limitations on a access not only to abortion, but complete reproductive health and family planning services.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQbrMwwEbCA
lots of disclaimers in there. zero quotes.
You posted bills, I read the first one and saw nothing other than financial explanations.
I ask for a quote from a doc you posted that proves your point and I get a couple videos and potential effects as read by women's rights groups.
This is the process of debating you and the reason so few remain that are willing to do so.
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Old 08-21-2012, 02:55 PM
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lots of disclaimers in there. zero quotes.
You posted bills, I read the first one and saw nothing other than financial explanations.
I ask for a quote from a doc you posted that proves your point and I get a couple videos and potential effects as read by women's rights groups.
This is the process of debating you and the reason so few remain that are willing to do so.
Again: what are you saying? Be clear!

I said, "This current congress has introduced over 40 bills attempting to restrict abortion and womens' rights".

Are you saying my statement is false? Yes or no? Are you saying the GOP has not introduced bills to restrict women's rights and abortion? Yes or no?
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Old 08-21-2012, 02:58 PM
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Again: what are you saying? Be clear!

I said, "This current congress has introduced over 40 bills attempting to restrict abortion and womens' rights".

Are you saying my statement is false? Yes or no? Are you saying the GOP has not introduced bills to restrict women's rights and abortion? Yes or no?
Still saying pull one quote from one bill that actually says what you are alleging other than a fiscal notation.

But this is pointless any way, you are blind and foolish and refuse to defend your positions and I will now join the sane people of the site that ignore your time wasting answer questions with questions philosophy that you equate with debate.
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Old 08-21-2012, 03:01 PM
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Still saying pull one quote from one bill that actually says what you are alleging other than a fiscal notation.

But this is pointless any way, you are blind and foolish and refuse to defend your positions and I will now join the sane people of the site that ignore your time wasting answer questions with questions philosophy that you equate with debate.
fare well.
I already quoted one bill at the start of your weirdness: House Bill 3. The very first bill the GOP introduced in this congress.

I said that indeed the GOP has introduced bill after bill in this Congress, that restricts womens rights.

You are denying that exists? Yes or no? I'm trying to be clear on what you are "demanding" as "proof" of "what".

I posted 38 bills that do just that. I posted a news article that lists the first 4 anti-abortion bills this House GOP introduced their first month in office in 2010.

You say that's not proof the GOP has introduced multiple bills in the House attempting to restrict abortion and women's rights? Good lord, the GOP is proud they have introduced bills to restrict abortion! It's their party platform!

Your contention that GOP restricting women's rights is all imaginary is beyond ridiculous on it's face.
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Old 08-21-2012, 03:04 PM
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Again: what are you saying? Be clear!

I said, "This current congress has introduced over 40 bills attempting to restrict abortion and womens' rights".

Are you saying my statement is false? Yes or no? Are you saying the GOP has not introduced bills to restrict women's rights and abortion? Yes or no?
I think you don't acknowledge that you stepped in it. Again.

point out precisely in any of these bills where the proposed laws states what you are saying it states.

Nowhere.

You are making the leap to say that a proposed bill which limits the government paying for abortions = Congress attempting to restrict abortions and of course by extension, women's rights.

And you got caught.


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Old 08-21-2012, 03:11 PM
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I think you don't acknowledge that you stepped in it. Again.

point out precisely in any of these bills where the proposed laws states what you are saying it states.
I started with House Bill 3. There were four bills introduced the first month of congress alone restricting abortion rights. There have been multiples since.

You are joining Clip Clop in denying they exist? Really? REALLY?

In the face of the actual bills being available, Republicans talking about them, and the news covering them?

Really? And you dare to call me a fool? Bwwwaahaaaaaaaaaaa!

God save this country from the profoundly ignorant.
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Old 08-21-2012, 03:20 PM
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I started with House Bill 3. There were four bills introduced the first month of congress restricting abortion rights.

You are denying they exist? Really? REALLY?

And you dare to call me a fool? Bwwwaahaaaaaaaaaaa!

God save this country from the profoundly ignorant.
Denying what? that the language you are on here trumpeting doesn't exist?
Really? REALLY?

Clip asked you numerous times to post precisely what, in any of these bills, seeks out to "restrict women rights"

And you respond with your usual bully tactic insults.

Please answer the question. Post precisely where, in any of these bills, the expressed purpose is to "control and restrict women's rights".

I bet you don't answer the question again. But I'm sure you'll find a way to try and insult me. Which is always good for a laugh.
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Old 08-21-2012, 03:33 PM
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Denying what? that the language you are on here trumpeting doesn't exist?
Hello - reality check on your little snit, Rude ...

I said, "The Republicans have introduced over 40 bills in Congress that attempt to restrict women's rights."

Proof provided. But why anyone would demand "proof" is bizarre. Unless they've been living in a cave? It's like asking for "proof" that Hannity exists. Hell, it's common knowledge in the real world. Massive, ongoing, constant press coverage of this issue over the past two years. Republicans brag about it, about all the bills they've introduced.

But I posted 38 bills covering abortion changes, news articles covering the first 4 bills, and the very first bill itself, House Bill 3.

Hell, Paul Ryan and Todd Akins co-wrote 4 (8?) of them together and co-sponsored them - they are PROUD to be removing women's rights to contraception and abortion.

The concept that two dudes - Rude and Clip-Clop - on an internet board proudly stand together and say, "duh, that's not true", and spending multiple posts trying to prove it, is as laughable as calling the sky not blue.

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Old 08-21-2012, 03:42 PM
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But let's get back to today's big news, regarding the (some think imaginary) war on women's rights -

Republicans want a constitutional amendment that raped women cannot get abortions.

They want it so badly, they have voted today, and officiallyincluded it in their Official National Republican Party Platform, as a goal to work towards.

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The National Republican Party, this afternoon in Tampa, just officially approved Todd Akins position on rape as part of the 2012 National Party Platform:

Republicans drafting their party's official policy platform on Tuesday ratified a call for a Constitutional ban on abortion that makes no exceptions for rape or incest.

The vote to endorse the party's long-standing opposition to abortion and support for a "human life amendment" took place at a meeting of the GOP's official platform committee in Tampa, the site of next week's Republican National Convention.
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Old 08-21-2012, 02:56 PM
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lots of disclaimers in there. zero quotes.
You posted bills, I read the first one and saw nothing other than financial explanations.
I ask for a quote from a doc you posted that proves your point and I get a couple videos and potential effects as read by women's rights groups.
This is the process of debating you and the reason so few remain that are willing to do so.
Now she will say the same thing over and over again and call you stupid. Watch.
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Old 08-21-2012, 02:59 PM
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Now she will say the same thing over and over again and call you stupid. Watch.
Stop it.

Stop being ridiculous and childish and whiny, and trying to derail a talk about if women's rights are being restricted with you interspersing personal attack.

Just grow up and stop it.
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Now she will say the same thing over and over again and call you stupid. Watch.
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Priebus: GOP platform 'not the platform of Mitt Romney'


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The official platform language poised for approval at next week's Republican National Convention doesn't fully represent the party's presumptive presidential nominee, Mitt Romney, RNC Chairman Reince Priebus said Tuesday.

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"I think as far as the details of some of these things, like an exception for rape or life of the mother, these are not uncommon differences that candidates have and don't share some of the detail on some of those exceptions," Priebus said on MSNBC. "This is the platform of the Republican Party; it's not the platform of Mitt Romney."


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