Romney refuses Obama campaign offer to stop talking about taxes

[my miss storm cat]

Thanks, guys.

[Dahoss]

I feel like I'm reading the PA off topic room. Kind of sad actually.

I also cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would spend so much time arguing about politics with people that have the opposite opinions as you do. As if anyone's opinion is actually going to change.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

I also cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would spend so much time arguing about politics with people that have the opposite opinions as you do. As if anyone's opinion is actually going to change.

There is a difference between arguing political opinion and arguing if facts exist or not.

This board doesn't tend to work from fact-based reality, a plethora of information, much of the time.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

I feel like I'm reading the PA off topic room. Kind of sad actually.

I also cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would spend so much time arguing about politics with people that have the opposite opinions as you do. As if anyone's opinion is actually going to change.

actually, i have had occasion to change my opinion when presented with alternate points of view. but then, i can't speak for everyone, and i generally don't occupy an extreme position on things. more of a live and let live type person.
i don't find discussion sad-it's the name calling and such that i don't care for. just because someone disagrees doesn't mean they're stupid(or whatever else i said)-especially when there are times those same two agree with each other, and then they're soooo smart.

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by Danzig

actually, i have had occasion to change my opinion when presented with alternate points of view. but then, i can't speak for everyone, and i generally don't occupy an extreme position on things. more of a live and let live type person.
i don't find discussion sad-it's the name calling and such that i don't care for. just because someone disagrees doesn't mean they're stupid(or whatever else i said)-especially when there are times those same two agree with each other, and then they're soooo smart.

1.You are not alone there..

2. Cheers on that..

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Danzig

actually, i have had occasion to change my opinion when presented with alternate points of view. but then, i can't speak for everyone, and i generally don't occupy an extreme position on things. more of a live and let live type person.
i don't find discussion sad-it's the name calling and such that i don't care for. just because someone disagrees doesn't mean they're stupid(or whatever else i said)-especially when there are times those same two agree with each other, and then they're soooo smart.

There are very few actual discussions here. Mostly because people rarely change their opinions on things and I would say it's even rarer people change their opinions because of something someone wrote in the off topic room of a horse racing message board.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

There are very few actual discussions here. Mostly because people rarely change their opinions on things and I would say it's even rarer people change their opinions because of something someone wrote in the off topic room of a horse racing message board.

I've seen people here change their opinions over the past 3-4 years.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Riot

I've seen people here change their opinions over the past 3-4 years.

True, you have driven many Democrats over to the Republicans.

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by Riot

Fear that the President is suddenly going to turn into an "attack the white man with hate" person? Give me an effing break and get me back to reality, please! Talk about racist Southern Strategy Dog Whistles! Good lord!.

I'm sorry but what? Where did this come from? I said nothing to deserve this and really all it does is to underline why people like me feel like they have to stay in the closet about such things and keep out mouths shut.

My God I've said wouldn't it be nice to not have to preface the word jockeys with the word female and it's the same here...

He's black and that is not the issue but because he's black people make wild assumption and that is really very unfair.

... and it's unfair to him too, isn't it? Would he want that preface for all of eternity... the black President?

Originally Posted by Riot

And calling the President a failure economically is a matter of opinion, but I'll go with the overwhelming number of economists that have objectively measured and shown how his economic policies kept us out of a depression, and are working in spite of overwhelming obstruction by the Republicans in Congress, thanks.

History will judge Obama very well, with historic, positive changes to this country. He's already being credited thusely at the end of his first term.

Haters are gonna hate on this President. But the facts are what they are.

I laughed.

Originally Posted by Riot

Wow. That's so offensive it's unbelievable. Certainly you are entitled to your opinion. This First Lady does simply what every other First Lady has done, had issues: and this one's is veterans welfare and health of our children.

I'm appalled you attack her for helping children. And her work in Veterans Affairs has been lauded by veterans as the most they've received in years.

I'm appalled at the outright hate thrown at this President and his family. I've never, ever seen anything like it, and no, Bush W. did not get this.

I am not throwing hate at his family. I would never say anything about his children.

You're appalled by what I said? Sorry that was tame.

Helping children? That tells me you probably don't have kids.

How dare she insinuate that parents need her to help us in choosing what to feed out kids.

I mean how did we even manage before her? We're so stupid and all..

What about her telling children to talk to "the wrong people" and go to go knock on doors, etc.?

So wrong on so many levels.

Which is worse... that it's exploitation or her brilliant advice to go knock on doors?

Hey kids there's a white van over there and the word ice cream is scribbled on the side in sharpie.

Don't forget to knock on that one!

Did you happen to see what this fashion icon wore to Teddy Kennedy's funeral? I mean she fell asleep during it but still... her outfit was probably more offensive than even that.

What about when she touched the Queen which I guess maybe wasn't so shocking to Her Majesty as she was still recovering from the gift from the President but then even that wasn't as bad as the 20 or so dvd's he bestowed up the Prime Minister. So what if American dvd's don't work over there?

I know these things are scattered and random and may not matter one by one by one but if you total it up the equation is she is a Nanny Nazi Buffoon and I resent it any time the government thinks they can intrude in peoples lives and on top of all of that they represent us and that is ****ing embarrassing.

My God school lunches? Yes that is the single most important thing happening in this country right now.

Remember when the two of them and Oprah and a bunch of other self-important and smug assholes went to see if Chicago would get the Olympics and, in what might well be my favorite memory of his Presidency, they didn't?

I wish all those people would get back on the plane and take their cronies and go somewhere else and maybe once again she can let the world know she is proud of her new country wherever that is for the first time.

I work, I'm single, I have kids, I have paid my own insurance for my family for over a decade, I don't receive any child support and I don't ask anyone for anything. I would help my friends in a heartbeat. I handle my finances, I'm charitable when I can be and I'm grateful to have been born here.

I have every right to say the things I do about either / both of them and to be disgusted and **** anyone who turns my words around to make it like I am somehow saying the things I do because I live in fear.

The kind of person I am or try to be reflects the country I was brought up in so it angers and saddens me to think of the push here and there to become United Socialist States of America.

This is not who we are. He needs to go and take Eleanore Roosevelt oops I mean Michelle, with him (get them mixed up, sorry).

Dum spiro spero. While I breathe, I hope.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Riot

I've seen people here change their opinions over the past 3-4 years.

No need to keep justifying yourself to me.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

There are very few actual discussions here. Mostly because people rarely change their opinions on things and I would say it's even rarer people change their opinions because of something someone wrote in the off topic room of a horse racing message board.

yeah, i try. they usually either are too 'boring' and no one bothers to engage, or not a hot button issue, or threads degenerate into your momma wears combat boots type posts. it's too bad that some don't post. i feel if more people would discuss, perhaps it would change the air in the room?