Censorship on Bloodhorse

[Honu]

With all the stuff that is being written about the Sheiks and their "buying up the game" and retiring horses along with a numbers guy basically bashing them and their operation , I think it would totally be funny if they just took their ball and went home.
Pull all their stock and take them to Europe , South America and everywhere else and with that take all their money that they pump into this sport in the USA , dont invite any Americans to come and compete in Dubai ( they are most likely tired of us taking their money anyway) just forget they ever heard of horse racing in the USA.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Honu

With all the stuff that is being written about the Sheiks and their "buying up the game" and retiring horses along with a numbers guy basically bashing them and their operation , I think it would totally be funny if they just took their ball and went home.
Pull all their stock and take them to Europe , South America and everywhere else and with that take all their money that they pump into this sport in the USA , dont invite any Americans to come and compete in Dubai ( they are most likely tired of us taking their money anyway) just forget they ever heard of horse racing in the USA.

It would suck if they did that and people continued to sell our top horses to them knowing they would take them off to other countries to race. Otherwise I don't think it will be a huge deal to the sport of racing. The breeding bubble would burst which would actually increase the number of top horses on the track. I don't know of anyone that would stop gambling on the races beause there are no longer any Sheikh horses racing. As a fan of the game and not someone financially invested in it I don't fear the Sheikhs taking their ball and going home at all. I'd welcome it.

[Honu]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

It would suck if they did that and people continued to sell our top horses to them knowing they would take them off to other countries to race. Otherwise I don't think it will be a huge deal to the sport of racing. The breeding bubble would burst which would actually increase the number of top horses on the track. I don't know of anyone that would stop gambling on the races beause there are no longer any Sheikh horses racing. As a fan of the game and not someone financially invested in it I don't fear the Sheikhs taking their ball and going home at all. I'd welcome it.

Well that is your opinon, I would just say this, that their money would be a big loss to the sport in the USA , they pump alot of money into this "dying industry" as some would say. They buy farms and horses , millions of dollars worth a year, ask any person in the breeding industry and they will tell you that the Sheiks contribute alot of money .
They sponser races that have HUGE purses throughout the world and here in the USA , they give jobs to alot of people here in the USA by having American trainers and farms. Believe me this industry would sorely miss their particpation in American racing.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Honu

Well that is your opinon, I would just say this, that their money would be a big loss to the sport in the USA , they pump alot of money into this "dying industry" as some would say. They buy farms and horses , millions of dollars worth a year, ask any person in the breeding industry and they will tell you that the Sheiks contribute alot of money .
They sponser races that have HUGE purses throughout the world and here in the USA , they give jobs to alot of people here in the USA by having American trainers and farms. Believe me this industry would sorely miss their particpation in American racing.

No doubt there would be tons in the industry impacted although almost entirely on the breeding side. I think the main impact on racing, which is what I am a fan of, would actually be to keep better horses on the track longer which would be a positive for racing. The entire market in the horse breeding industry is a bubble. If people in the industry aren't prepared for that bubble to pop then they are being foolish. They should be profiting all they can now but better have backup plans if it does pop. I'm sure there are some that are aware of it and others completely oblivious to it.

[Honu]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

No doubt there would be tons in the industry impacted although almost entirely on the breeding side. I think the main impact on racing, which is what I am a fan of, would actually be to keep better horses on the track longer which would be a positive for racing. The entire market in the horse breeding industry is a bubble. If people in the industry aren't prepared for that bubble to pop then they are being foolish. They should be profiting all they can now but better have backup plans if it does pop. I'm sure there are some that are aware of it and others completely oblivious to it.

People are chastising them for what we American breeders and owners do here right now.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Honu

People are chastising them for what we American breeders and owners do here right now.

I definitely do think they get too much of the blame. I posted on another thread that I thought it was ridiculous that they are being attacked for retiring Bernardini and Henny Hughes yet somehow Coolmore retired Aussie Rules, a sound 3yo, for a $15,000 stud fee and are avoiding scrutiny. The whole breeding industry is a problem for racing but there is really no hope of it getting fixed anytime soon while people know the Shiekhs and Coolmore will vastly overpay for one of their horses.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

I definitely do think they get too much of the blame. I posted on another thread that I thought it was ridiculous that they are being attacked for retiring Bernardini and Henny Hughes yet somehow Coolmore retired Aussie Rules, a sound 3yo, for a $15,000 stud fee and are avoiding scrutiny. The whole breeding industry is a problem for racing but there is really no hope of it getting fixed anytime soon while people know the Shiekhs and Coolmore will vastly overpay for one of their horses.

My vitriol extends to Coolmore as well. In fact, they are worse.

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by Honu

Well that is your opinon, I would just say this, that their money would be a big loss to the sport in the USA , they pump alot of money into this "dying industry" as some would say. They buy farms and horses , millions of dollars worth a year, ask any person in the breeding industry and they will tell you that the Sheiks contribute alot of money .
They sponser races that have HUGE purses throughout the world and here in the USA , they give jobs to alot of people here in the USA by having American trainers and farms. Believe me this industry would sorely miss their particpation in American racing.

I agree with Sniper on this. Even if you believe the money from the Sheiks is important for the current state of racing, it's an unhealthy situation to be so dependent on one unstable source of support. The very fact that they COULD decide to get out of the game at any moment suggests it would be wise to not depend on their largesse.

--Dunbar

[slotdirt]

Sheesh, it's not like Haskin's pieces don't usually throw in some sort of commentary or opinion on a particular horse or the business in general.

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Sheesh, it's not like Haskin's pieces don't usually throw in some sort of commentary or opinion on a particular horse or the business in general.

I'm just glad the BC is over.
Moreso than even the Derby the infatuation and obsession with it leads to two months of nonstop talk about nothing but the BC and people get hotheaded about it. Leads to too many arguments and hard feelings.
Derby is littel different because its only one race and then you still have the Preak and Belmont for those who feel they had the best horse in a race to attempt to vindicate themselves. Its not as "final" as the BC is.
If you are a player or in the business or both you realize that life goes on. Plenty of horses to look forward to, races to look forward to, tri crown preps start shortly, and look at tomorrow with its 3 carryovers at 3 major tracks.
Hell this year we even get a horseplayer's paradise FG, opening back up.
Man did the lack of FG hurt me last year. I hate Gulf and its horrible weekday cards. FG always has a lotta grass races, larger fields, and a safe and true dirt track. Lots of good trainers there as well.
This game centers around the BC and Tri Crown, and the hype the sport gets that weekend is necessary for the game to grow, but there is a lot to look forward to and talk about.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Man did the lack of FG hurt me last year.

Yet another innocent victim of Katrina.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Honu

With all the stuff that is being written about the Sheiks and their "buying up the game" and retiring horses along with a numbers guy basically bashing them and their operation , I think it would totally be funny if they just took their ball and went home.
Pull all their stock and take them to Europe , South America and everywhere else and with that take all their money that they pump into this sport in the USA , dont invite any Americans to come and compete in Dubai ( they are most likely tired of us taking their money anyway) just forget they ever heard of horse racing in the USA.

Maybe they can make up some fake races over in Dubai and award their own purse money to themselves. Oops...they are already doing that.

We have what they want...horseflesh and prestige. The breeders may need them, but they need us, and they give nothing to the American racing fan. NOTHING. They only subtract.

They should definitely go to South America. I bet their big races would be easier to win. Then again, if they can't, they can always buy their best horses. Oops again....they already did that.

[Honu]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Maybe they can make up some fake races over in Dubai and award their own purse money to themselves. Oops...they are already doing that.

We have what they want...horseflesh and prestige. The breeders may need them, but they need us, and they give nothing to the American racing fan. NOTHING. They only subtract.

They should definitely go to South America. I bet their big races would be easier to win. Then again, if they can't, they can always buy their best horses. Oops again....they already did that.

Be carefull what you wish for......

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Honu

Be carefull what you wish for......

You must be joking. It would be my dream for them to go away completely.

Sorry, I haven't noticed all their entrants in February at Aqueduct. They are a drain on the industry at the high end. I would love it if they announced tomorrow they were done with racing. Maybe racing would take over instead of breeding.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

You must be joking. It would be my dream for them to go away completely.

Sorry, I haven't noticed all their entrants in February at Aqueduct. They are a drain on the industry at the high end. I would love it if they announced tomorrow they were done with racing. Maybe racing would take over instead of breeding.

LOL, yeah I am still waiting for the 25k Darley maiden claimer in late January on the AQ inner.

Japan built their whole establishment on the great Sunday Silence and it has been successful. The quality of the horses and races is right up there now....I can only assume that the Dubai gang is hoping for a similar success story. And with their resources, they will get wherever they want. Simply a matter of time.

[Honu]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

You must be joking. It would be my dream for them to go away completely.

Sorry, I haven't noticed all their entrants in February at Aqueduct. They are a drain on the industry at the high end. I would love it if they announced tomorrow they were done with racing. Maybe racing would take over instead of breeding.

Yeah right , because so many American breeders and owners have the money and desire that they do .
How many American owned horses have been retired to the shed that you would consider premature ? I think people who are directly involved in the game know what an impact the Sheiks pulling their money from this country would do.