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Old 08-16-2012, 07:46 PM
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Wow, I thought this was going to be some sort of sarcastic thread.

Didn't that horse take a bad step in the 11th?

Guy has been solid. Agree with something Nick said last weekend on ATR - he's a terrific judge of pace. I feel like he has his horse in good position as much as any of the guys riding in Saratoga this summer, especially on the turf.

Go watch his ride on Lubash and then tell me he's "terrible."
This. That 4 is slow and she almost went down on the backstretch. The idea that he had something to do with her losing is laughable.

Lezcano is the only guy in the discussion with Dominguez as the best day in, day out rider in the country.
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Old 08-16-2012, 11:21 PM
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This. That 4 is slow and she almost went down on the backstretch. The idea that he had something to do with her losing is laughable.

Lezcano is the only guy in the discussion with Dominguez as the best day in, day out rider in the country.
Wow! The only guy?

I would have to leave. Bejerano as pretty consistent, reliable and. Good on the grass. Agree that Dominguez is seperating himself in New York.

I also think that there are a lot of good "go to" jocks. The horses make these guys and the better the results, the better the mounts.
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Old 08-17-2012, 12:00 AM
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I'm a big Lezcano fan, but I think Joel Rosario has really had a good meet and is riding second best after Dominguez. Then it's probably Junior Alvarado (who I have been way wrong about so far) or Lezcano.
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Old 08-17-2012, 12:02 AM
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I'm a big Lezcano fan, but I think Joel Rosario has really had a good meet and is riding second best after Dominguez. Then it's probably Junior Alvarado (who I have been way wrong about so far) or Lezcano.
I agree that these are the top four riding in NY right now.
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Old 08-17-2012, 06:52 AM
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How about Alan Garcia with Photon in Thursday's 8th? Breaks in great position and takes back after sensing the sizzling :24 opening quarter..
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Old 08-17-2012, 06:58 AM
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How about Alan Garcia with Photon in Thursday's 8th? Breaks in great position and takes back after sensing the sizzling :24 opening quarter..
That's my gripe with these jocks today - No apparent sense of pace -

Many times a race is stolen on the front-end - This did not seem to happen as much in the past
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Old 08-17-2012, 08:09 AM
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It is a tad ironic that this topic came up about a ride in Race 11 after the rides he put forth in the 9th and 10th.
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Old 08-17-2012, 12:01 AM
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Wow! The only guy?

I would have to leave. Bejerano as pretty consistent, reliable and. Good on the grass. Agree that Dominguez is seperating himself in New York.

I also think that there are a lot of good "go to" jocks. The horses make these guys and the better the results, the better the mounts.
Lezcano is better than Bejarano and it's not even close. Bejarano beats up on terrible competition in California and gets pretty much every live mount now that Rosario is gone, while Lezcano is consistently holding his own in the strongest colony in racing despite not being first call for a powerhouse barn. Pletcher goes to Castellano and Velazquez, Chad Brown goes to Dominguez first generally. He gets some good mounts from Clement and Mott, but even those he has to split with Leparoux (Clement) and Alvarado (Mott).

Bejarano last 12 months: 23% $1.69 ROI, 21% $1.68 ROI turf
Lezcano last 12 months: 19% $2.12 ROI, 20% $2.07 ROI turf
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Old 08-17-2012, 08:35 AM
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Lezcano last 12 months: 19% $2.12 ROI, 20% $2.07 ROI turf
Going back to 2005, Lezcano's ROI with turf routers is a lot better than that $2.07

He had insane year after insane year after insane year with turf routers before he started riding regularly in NY.
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