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[golfer]

Originally Posted by Bigsmc

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/82...ended-50-games

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/ba...icle-1.1137343

I don't care much for Victor Conte, but it's hard to imagine there's anyone on the planet who knows more about this subject?

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by golfer

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/ba...icle-1.1137343

I don't care much for Victor Conte, but it's hard to imagine there's anyone on the planet who knows more about this subject?

Nothing new regarding testosterone (see Landis, Floyd). Just like anything else, atheletes (or horse trainers) are going to push the envelope. Most are smart enough to stay below the testing limits. Some, make mistakes or are dumb enough to get caught.

Anyone who believes most atheletes are clean, aren't taking every advantage and pushing the testing envelope, are naive.

[Rudeboyelvis]

At what point do you think the Rays take an honest look at Derek Shelton (the Rays hitting coach)?

They've been no-hit what, like 3 times since he's been here?

They consistently struggle with hitting, players that come in (Re: Scott, Keppinger, Reynolds, Matsuki, etc.) come in on a tear, and go ice cold within two weeks.

Of course I realize the payroll isn't that of some of the bigger markets, but they were hitting better with worse scrubs in the late 90's - where there's smoke .....

[Bigsmc]

You can't make this shi t up. Wow.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/82...se-report-says

[MaTH716]

Bye-bye Bartolo............................

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/82...lb-drug-policy

[declansharbor]

Looks like my buddy and I will be collecting when the Nats win the NL East this year!! Bet $50 each on the Nats and Marlins to win NL East. We laughed to each other when the Phils were 1/2 to win the division, and 2.25/1 to win the NL. We might've been the only guys in Philly with realistic expectations of our team before the season started. You need your head checked if you were to bet the Phils at those prices, esp with the other teams getting markedly better and the Phils practically standing still.

Phillies are one thing, but you wouldn't catch us DEAD betting against our Birds! Foles for President 2016!!

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by declansharbor

Looks like my buddy and I will be collecting when the Nats win the NL East this year!! Bet $50 each on the Nats and Marlins to win NL East. We laughed to each other when the Phils were 1/2 to win the division, and 2.25/1 to win the NL. We might've been the only guys in Philly with realistic expectations of our team before the season started. You need your head checked if you were to bet the Phils at those prices, esp with the other teams getting markedly better and the Phils practically standing still.

Phillies are one thing, but you wouldn't catch us DEAD betting against our Birds! Foles for President 2016!!

Too bad for you Mikey, you guys would have really cleaned up betting last year against the dream team .

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Bye-bye Bartolo............................

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/82...lb-drug-policy

You gotta love the MLB spin doctors telling you that catching Melky and Bart shows us that the PED policy is working.

That's akin to horse racing saying we've caught Zaidie and Dutrow, proof positive that the drug testing is working and the sport is clean.