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[Riot]

Originally Posted by jms62

Great giving a work permit to a non US citizen when we are at 15% unemployment.

Yeah, better to throw that college graduate or US army soldier who fought for you in Iraq out of the country. Said no one, ever.

Reality: they are already here. They are already your neighbor. They are already in school, working. They are already contributing citizens. They are paying local, state taxes, possibly federal. They are not "taking" diddly-shiat- they are contributing, right now. And they are risking everything to come out of the shadows, a shadow they didn't chose nor were responsible for, to be put "into the system". And a good number of them will be deported as not eligible when they come forward.

[Danzig]

"Under guidelines that the administration announced Tuesday, the agency said proof of identity and eligibility under the program could include a passport or birth certificate, school transcripts, medical and financial records and military service records. DHS said that in some instances, multiple sworn affidavits, signed by a third party under penalty of perjury, could also be used."


my son is in the navy....he went to DMV in charleston sc to get a motorcycle permit, as he recently bought a crotch rocket (yay). he had both his current drivers license, as well as his military id, also had his s.s. card. they still demanded other proof, so i had to overnight his birth certificate. for a mc permit.

and people from another country who are here without proper paperwork can get a work visa with less i.d. there's something very wrong here.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

"Under guidelines that the administration announced Tuesday, the agency said proof of identity and eligibility under the program could include a passport or birth certificate, school transcripts, medical and financial records and military service records. DHS said that in some instances, multiple sworn affidavits, signed by a third party under penalty of perjury, could also be used."


my son is in the navy....he went to DMV in charleston sc to get a motorcycle permit, as he recently bought a crotch rocket (yay). he had both his current drivers license, as well as his military id, also had his s.s. card. they still demanded other proof, so i had to overnight his birth certificate. for a mc permit.

and people from another country who are here without proper paperwork can get a work visa with less i.d. there's something very wrong here.

So you didn't understand the part about them being brought here illegally as children, so they don't have all that stuff?

And this special program for children brought here as children is precisely because they don't have all that stuff?

And you're complaining they don't have the ID to prove they don't have ID?

God help this country.

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by Danzig

"Under guidelines that the administration announced Tuesday, the agency said proof of identity and eligibility under the program could include a passport or birth certificate, school transcripts, medical and financial records and military service records. DHS said that in some instances, multiple sworn affidavits, signed by a third party under penalty of perjury, could also be used."


my son is in the navy....he went to DMV in charleston sc to get a motorcycle permit, as he recently bought a crotch rocket (yay). he had both his current drivers license, as well as his military id, also had his s.s. card. they still demanded other proof, so i had to overnight his birth certificate. for a mc permit.

and people from another country who are here without proper paperwork can get a work visa with less i.d. there's something very wrong here.

Zig I have the Riot IGGY working but I will bet a Million her response is you are stupid and just don't understand - hey isn't that the same sh*t Obama says? Ror!!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by geeker2

Zig I have the Riot IGGY working but I will bet a Million her response is you are stupid and just don't understand - hey isn't that the same sh*t Obama says? Ror!!

Guess you're wrong. Are you embarrassed about it?

[dellinger63]

When do 'our' new permitted workers get counted in employment/unemployment figures?

and do we have a number or percentage of those (illegals) that have served in the military?

Truth behind hope and change sux!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

When do 'our' new permitted workers get counted in employment/unemployment figures?

and do we have a number or percentage of those (illegals) that have served in the military?

Truth behind hope and change sux!

i don't know that an illegal alien would be eligible to join the u.s. military; i don't think they can, since they're illegal. non-u.s. citizens can and do join, to attempt gaining citizenship that way
and i'd imagine that they would be listed in figures once they are actively searching for work, or if they get hired and later get laid off, thus getting unemployment benefits.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i don't know that an illegal alien would be eligible to join the u.s. military; i don't think they can, since they're illegal. non-u.s. citizens can and do join, to attempt gaining citizenship that way
and i'd imagine that they would be listed in figures once they are actively searching for work, or if they get hired and later get laid off, thus getting unemployment benefits.

Yes, undocumented children brought to this country by their parents have grown up and served in our miltary. And no, they won't earn citizenship, but yes, they will be able, effective today, to be in the country legally for 2 more years (if they are approved).