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Old 08-13-2012, 10:15 PM
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Now actually try answering my questions without your vague, baseless responses. I already busted you on the health care debate.
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Old 08-13-2012, 10:41 PM
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Now actually try answering my questions without your vague, baseless responses. I already busted you on the health care debate.
Your level of debate skill and political acumen are on brilliant display for all to appreciate, as it always has been here on Dee Tee

When you get angry, you can't hide your usual typing style and word use. Better watch that, or more people will figure out who you really are.
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Old 08-13-2012, 11:02 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T73phKWYHTc

1:41 is a classic. "The reforms we seek will bring greater . . . inefficiencies to our healthcare system."
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Old 08-14-2012, 07:13 AM
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Here goes Riot again with the classic strategy right out of her idol David Axelrod's play book, which is when you don't have anything intelligent to say then attack the poster personally. What is next Riot? I am shocked you haven't called me a racist yet, which is what an obama worshipper does when they are basically admitting they have lost the argument.
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Old 08-14-2012, 12:20 PM
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http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily...3Rpb25z;_ylv=3
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Old 08-14-2012, 05:36 PM
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•Maintains Defense spending that is nearly twice the $400 billion (adjusted for today's dollars) that General Eisenhower spent in the 1960s
•Shreds the safety net provided by $100 billion in food stamps and $300 billion in Medicaid
•Does not cut one dime from Medicare or Social Security for another decade
•Includes no serious plan to create jobs
•Radically cuts taxes on the richest Americans while eliminating tax breaks that mostly help the middle class
•Fails to even consider a "value-added sales tax," which is the only way the country can begin to climb out of its budget hole



the bolded above is from the story jms linked.

on the first bullet-it's absurd. i think the two biggest problems i have with republicans are their love of defense spending (which is already incredibly massive, exactly why does it need increasing?) and their continued song and dance of tax cuts for the wealthiest, who pay less and less as the years go by. and as they pay less, the jobs don't increase, and the debt grows. so exactly what does giving tax breaks to the wealthy accomplish? well, nothing, unless you're the wealthy guy laughing because he's doing better and better.

bullet number three-again, other than defense, medicare/caid and ss are the other huge drain on the fed. that and defense are the two elephants in the corner that everyone ignores. ignoring those programs does nothing to address the concerns there. a small move now would not only put things back on track, but would lessen the larger, and more painful moves that would be needed in future if nothing is done now-and has anyone seen anyone in d.c. make any move there? nope. the payroll tax cuts that keep getting argued about-that's a lowering of ss payments. yeah, the program needing help-it's got less funds coming in than planned for, so that hole will grow.

the next two points, see my comments about the first bullet point. as the article i linked to the other day showed, the higher taxes were on the wealthy, the more they grew jobs-perhaps because that was a way to avoid taxes, and perhaps shelter some of the money by putting it in business? lower taxes, hell, they'll just let that stuff sit there and accumulate-and that's exactly what they're doing with it.
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