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Love this mare! No way she can be replaced for a while. Has run well everywhere she's been asked - US, UK, Ireland, Dubai, Hong Kong, etc. Would likely be a 3 time F&M Turf Champ if she didnt get impossible outside post and no pace outside of Intercontinental in 2005
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11-09-2006, 12:06 AM
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11-09-2006, 02:24 AM
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look,
I recognize her greatness. she has been the at the top of the filly and mare middle distance division for the past 3 years. but if she is all of this that I have been hearing the past 5 days, what the hell does that say about Intercontinental? and dont give me that crap about her not being in top form in 2005. they still brought her over. she ran a bang up race a month later in HK. my only point is that she was beatable, just as Wait A While was shown to be. she came back and so will Wait A While(I assume she stays in training). Repent
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11-09-2006, 07:16 AM
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11-09-2006, 07:32 AM
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No one is indicting "I.C." while praising "O.B." But she left the '05 F&M from the 13 hole and Intercontinental got away clean on the front end and Ouija Board fell short.. Was also on well less than firm turf (which she prefers a great deal), and she was indeed coming around from a career-threatening injury. She got beat on the square as Ed Dunlop and Lord Derby readily acknowledge, but let's be honest; any kind of pace challenge up front last year and Ouija very likely is a winner of three straight F&M Turfs. The horse that gets lost in the shuffle in these discussions continually is Film Maker... Directly behind Ouija three years in a row...
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11-09-2006, 07:47 AM
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one win was enough to give high chaparral the eclipse. with anticipation won how many races that year, and came in second in the bc--if that vote was valid then...i say give it to ouija board now.
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11-09-2006, 11:35 AM
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but do you really think she would have held ouija board off for another eighth of a mile had the BC been anywhere but Belmont Park? Ouija Board would have been best that day too if the race were at 1 3/8 miles. Could have made a huge difference.
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11-09-2006, 01:18 PM
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Lord Derby is a cool name. Could be the name of a rapper.
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11-09-2006, 03:54 PM
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I am thinking Lord Terror of Tampa Bay.... yeah....I like the sound of that 
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11-10-2006, 02:00 AM
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from what I understand, the race is supposed to be run at 10f like it was at Belmont. thats what they ran it at when Starine won at Arlington in 2002 and when Islington won at Santa Anita in 2003. its only run at 11f when tracks like Lone Star and CD are the host tracks and the configuration does not allow for a 10f turf race. I dont believe distance had anything to do with IC's win in 2005. like Kasept and everyone points out, PACE was the main reason for IC's dominance over that field. but that does not change my point. IC still beat her. HC won the BCT in 2002 with a slow pace to run at. it can be done. OB did not do it in 2005. Im not hating on her, Im just saying she could be beaten. so with that in mind, i hope ppl dont dismiss the great year that WAW had while getting beat one time on the turf. b/c as The Board showed us in 2005, a turf mare can be great and still lose the BCFMT in the same year. Repent
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11-09-2006, 02:26 AM
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Bill Finley had this thing on deserving Eclipse hopefuls and some he didn't think did deserve it. I think he's being a horse's butt. He goes on this big whine about not voting for OB cuz she's only had one race here and what happened in England doesn't count--sometimes I subscribe to that but here? You've got to be kidding me. He figures Wait a While and Gorella are better candidates with 3 GSWs each (I assume that's right, I didn't check). Point is you think either of those mares, neither of whom threw in a stellar performance Saturday, in any way deserves the Eclipse over the queen? She's clearly a phenomenal mare.
I can see not giving it to Red Rocks or something but for pete's sake...not giving Ouija Board her coronation is like only having one Pringles chip--can't do it.
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11-09-2006, 02:30 AM
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and this year I think The Board is probably deserving. but I would not argue with any voter who voted for Wait A While. she was just off the charts good. similar campaign to the 3YO campaign Kittens Joy put together when he won the male version of the award. Repent
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