BaseBrawl tomorrow and Sunday

[Calzone Lord]

The Reds pitcher plunked a Pirate at the start of the game -- they warned both benches -- and the Pirates manager got ejected for coming out and yelling at the ump for warning his bench.

The Pirates hit no one.

They lost 5-4 -- McCutchen (who was batting .372 coming into this game) went 0-for-4 with 2 strikeouts one day after taking a 102 mph fastball off the back of his neck.

Wins and losses come a dime a dozen both ways -- you can't ever accept someone bullying you, intimidating you, and taking an edge on you.

The Pirates wasted an opportunity for justifiable ruthlessness and a chance to send everyone a clear message 'try to bully us, and we will show you a level of violence you will find unpleasant to deal with and uncomfortable to try and match tit for tat'

Instead, they lost a one-run game and by far the best player they have had a terrible game at the plate.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

The Reds pitcher plunked a Pirate at the start of the game -- they warned both benches -- and the Pirates manager got ejected for coming out and yelling at the ump for warning his bench.

The Pirates hit no one.

They lost 5-4 -- McCutchen (who was batting .372 coming into this game) went 0-for-4 with 2 strikeouts one day after taking a 102 mph fastball off the back of his neck.

Wins and losses come a dime a dozen both ways -- you can't ever accept someone bullying you, intimidating you, and taking an edge on you.

The Pirates wasted an opportunity for justifiable ruthlessness and a chance to send everyone a clear message 'try to bully us, and we will show you a level of violence you will find unpleasant to deal with and uncomfortable to try and match tit for tat'

Instead, they lost a one-run game and by far the best player they have had a terrible game at the plate.

Turned out to a smart move by the Reds. Hit the first guy and get the warnings out of the way. Probably Infuritated the Bucs even more and maybe take them off their game a bit.
Today will probably be the bloodbath, especially if the game gets out of hand score wise. Regardless, at some point the Bucs have to protect their guys and throw at a few Reds.

[Duvalier]

Pirates seem to be handling the situation better this series.

[docicu3]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

The Reds pitcher plunked a Pirate at the start of the game -- they warned both benches -- and the Pirates manager got ejected for coming out and yelling at the ump for warning his bench.

The Pirates hit no one.

They lost 5-4 -- McCutchen (who was batting .372 coming into this game) went 0-for-4 with 2 strikeouts one day after taking a 102 mph fastball off the back of his neck.

Wins and losses come a dime a dozen both ways -- you can't ever accept someone bullying you, intimidating you, and taking an edge on you.

The Pirates wasted an opportunity for justifiable ruthlessness and a chance to send everyone a clear message 'try to bully us, and we will show you a level of violence you will find unpleasant to deal with and uncomfortable to try and match tit for tat'

Instead, they lost a one-run game and by far the best player they have had a terrible game at the plate.

Meanwhile Yanks go meekly by 10 runs last night to the Red Sox at home with no evidence of seeming to care.....times they are a changin.

[Calzone Lord]

In this 3 game weekend series, ten different times a batter was hit-by-a pitch.

Pirates pitchers hit 6 Reds batters.

Reds pitchers hit 4 Pirates batters.

They may have lost the series 2 games to 1 ... but that was a victory. You can't back down when someone tries to bully you.

Especially when you're a franchise that has had a losing record every season during both the Clinton, George W. Bush, and Obama presidency.

The last time the Pirates had anything other than a losing season, George Herbert Walker Bush was president.

I love this team this year. The last two years, it felt like I was rooting for a handicapped child.

This years team is no handicapped child. They're much deeper, and way more talented in the bullpen. They've also showed a lot more of an edge this year.

[Conrad]

How about the Dodgers wanting to go after Carlos Quentin?

Greinke plunked him, he charged the mound and broke Greinke's collarbone.
Now the Dodgers want revenge?
Didn't they learn their lesson last time?
guess they want another pitcher on the DL

[Duvalier]

It's becoming commonplace with the Pirates. Posey should get one in the next two days.

[Duvalier]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

They may have lost the series 2 games to 1 ... but that was a victory. You can't back down when someone tries to bully you.

If they don't do something about yesterday, then it looks like they are going to be bullied by the Reds the rest of the way. Leake hits McCutchen early and in the ninth Chapman buzzes one up by Walker's head. What happened last year when Chapman hit McCutchen up high and nothing was done about it...can't happen again.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by Duvalier

If they don't do something about yesterday, then it looks like they are going to be bullied by the Reds the rest of the way. Leake hits McCutchen early and in the ninth Chapman buzzes one up by Walker's head. What happened last year when Chapman hit McCutchen up high and nothing was done about it...can't happen again.

I agree. I'd like to see Joey Votto get drilled tonight.

I was reading how Doc Ellis pitched a game against the Reds. Pete Rose was the first batter of the game, he throw the first pitch at his head and missed. The 2nd pitch went behind him. He finally plunked him on the 3rd pitch.

Joe Morgan was up next. He plunked him.

The 3rd batter he faced, he plunked.

The 4th batter literally ran from the battors box when he released his pitch. He walked him on four pitches, two of them were sent to the backstop.

This is a great boxscore:

http://retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1974/B05010PIT1974.htm

4 batters faced, he hit 3 of them with a pitch, and walked the other.

We need that type of effort from our pitchers tonight. Pirates batters have been hit by a pitch a league most 40 times this year...and Neil Walker almost got his head taken off by Chapman, yesterday.

[3kings]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

I agree. I'd like to see Joey Votto get drilled tonight.

I was reading how Doc Ellis pitched a game against the Reds. Pete Rose was the first batter of the game, he throw the first pitch at his head and missed. The 2nd pitch went behind him. He finally plunked him on the 3rd pitch.

Joe Morgan was up next. He plunked him.

The 3rd batter he faced, he plunked.

The 4th batter literally ran from the battors box when he released his pitch. He walked him on four pitches, two of them were sent to the backstop.

This is a great boxscore:

http://retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1974/B05010PIT1974.htm

4 batters faced, he hit 3 of them with a pitch, and walked the other.

We need that type of effort from our pitchers tonight. Pirates batters have been hit by a pitch a league most 40 times this year...and Neil Walker almost got his head taken off by Chapman, yesterday.

Morton hit Choo with the first pitch. It's about time.

[Duvalier]

Originally Posted by 3kings

Morton hit Choo with the first pitch. It's about time.

Yeah it is...at least a message was sent this time. I think Doug is spot on...this is a totally different team, one with a lot more of an edge

[Duvalier]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

I agree. I'd like to see Joey Votto get drilled tonight.

I was reading how Doc Ellis pitched a game against the Reds. Pete Rose was the first batter of the game, he throw the first pitch at his head and missed. The 2nd pitch went behind him. He finally plunked him on the 3rd pitch.

Joe Morgan was up next. He plunked him.

The 3rd batter he faced, he plunked.

The 4th batter literally ran from the battors box when he released his pitch. He walked him on four pitches, two of them were sent to the backstop.

This is a great boxscore:

http://retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1974/B05010PIT1974.htm

4 batters faced, he hit 3 of them with a pitch, and walked the other.

We need that type of effort from our pitchers tonight. Pirates batters have been hit by a pitch a league most 40 times this year...and Neil Walker almost got his head taken off by Chapman, yesterday.

Pretty funny to read about it: May Day - Dock Goes Redhunting

http://www.nonoadockumentary.com/mayday

[Crown@club]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_1CL468mtQ