Proposed weight breaks for horses not using lasix

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I dont believe that this is significant. The half life of bute is short enough where it doesnt really matter when giving a shot 24 hours out. I race in different jurisdictions under both rules and the prerace protocol is the same.

You have a good point. It interests me that you say that the pre-race timing is the same in both jurisdictions, and that doesn't make the rare positive? That's good. I was thinking based upon the half-life, and the pharmacologic effective dose, I would have thought this would cause another 8-hour add-on pre-race timing as to when you'd give it. And that would affect those lower-level warrior $5K claimers, with their chronic aches and pains, that need their residual bute to do their jobs well. Good to know you say that won't matter.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

You have a good point. It interests me that you say that the pre-race timing is the same in both jurisdictions, and that doesn't make the rare positive? That's good. I was thinking based upon the half-life, and the pharmacologic effective dose, I would have thought this would cause another 8-hour add-on pre-race timing as to when you'd give it. And that would affect those lower-level warrior $5K claimers, with their chronic aches and pains, that need their residual bute to do their jobs well. Good to know you say that won't matter.

While I'm sure that given the lower allowable amount there is an increase risk for a positive it still is relatively low. I know that in some jurisdictions you could give 5cc bute by 4 am on the day of the race and you were ok. The lower allowable level takes that away which is a good thing.

[Cannon Shell]

I still dont see why anyone thinks there will some some benefit to racing if horses do not race on lasix?

The breeding theory is ludicious. The expense theory is completely wrong. The idea that lasix somehow prevents the playing field from being level is pointless. Comparing racing in other countries to ours using a single factor like lasix is crazy. Getting rid of lasix wont help racing in this country one bit and in the short term will create more issues than it solves especially considering it doesnt really solve anything.

I just wish the fervor that some who stump for the elimination of lasix would be used for real issues that need to be addressed.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I still dont see why anyone thinks there will some some benefit to racing if horses do not race on lasix?

The breeding theory is ludicious. The expense theory is completely wrong. The idea that lasix somehow prevents the playing field from being level is pointless. Comparing racing in other countries to ours using a single factor like lasix is crazy. Getting rid of lasix wont help racing in this country one bit and in the short term will create more issues than it solves especially considering it doesnt really solve anything.

I just wish the fervor that some who stump for the elimination of lasix would be used for real issues that need to be addressed.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I still dont see why anyone thinks there will some some benefit to racing if horses do not race on lasix?

The breeding theory is ludicious. The expense theory is completely wrong. The idea that lasix somehow prevents the playing field from being level is pointless. Comparing racing in other countries to ours using a single factor like lasix is crazy. Getting rid of lasix wont help racing in this country one bit and in the short term will create more issues than it solves especially considering it doesnt really solve anything.

I just wish the fervor that some who stump for the elimination of lasix would be used for real issues that need to be addressed.