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Old 08-01-2012, 12:19 PM
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Are illegals going to be required to obtain health insurance? Or are we going to treat them status quo? You know thru the ER.

BTW Legals who are being paid under the table to avoid having beni's cancelled are worse than illegals doing the same IMO.
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Old 08-01-2012, 12:26 PM
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Are illegals going to be required to obtain health insurance? Or are we going to treat them status quo? You know thru the ER.

BTW Legals who are being paid under the table to avoid having beni's cancelled are worse than illegals doing the same IMO.
illegals are not able to obtain insurance thru exchanges. i doubt the'd try anyway-why would they get themselves flagged like that?
and, again, a recent study said the 'er' thing is hogwash anyway. but facts can be pesky things.
and anyone being paid cash is doing a wrong, not any worse or better regardless of status.
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Old 08-01-2012, 12:33 PM
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and anyone being paid cash is doing a wrong, not any worse or better regardless of status.
People being paid in cash to avoid taxes are stealing from the pot.

People being paid in cash to avoid taxes and still receive unemployment, food stamps, SSI etc. are stealing twice.

Get it now?

Since illegals aren't allowed to participate in the exchanges are they still able to send their illegal children to public school? And who pays for that?
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Old 08-01-2012, 12:39 PM
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People being paid in cash to avoid taxes are stealing from the pot.

People being paid in cash to avoid taxes and still receive unemployment, food stamps, SSI etc. are stealing twice.

Get it now?

Since illegals aren't allowed to participate in the exchanges are they still able to send their illegal children to public school? And who pays for that?
what pot?
i understand exactly why people get paid cash, so you can hold the condescension.
in my opinion, it's the payer, not the receiver, who is most at fault. he makes out, as he hasn't got to pay matching ss, workers comp, etc, etc, etc. the employer is the one actually committing the crime. a worker paid in cash is getting no favors done for himself. it's when he doesn't claim his income that he then breaks a rule. you can't claim unemployment when there's no employment on record. and when he retires, he's in for a shock.
and i'd wager that the vast majority of people on assistance aren't working on the side, whether for cash or any other reason.
as for illegals and their children, i don't know what the actual numbers of illegal families are in country. seems that most migrant workers come alone, leaving families behind in their native country.
but yes, kids who attend class would be part of what the state uses to decide funding to each school.
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Old 08-01-2012, 01:09 PM
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Since illegals aren't allowed to participate in the exchanges are they still able to send their illegal children to public school? And who pays for that?
Illegals with fake social security numbers pay for it themselves.

Illegals without faked SS numbers, who are hired in situations like Clip Clops boss who doesn't bother to check status and just pays cash, have us paying for it.

Illegals of both stripes still pay local taxes when they buy groceries, etc.

And Clip Clop's boss is taking money out of our school systems (and all publicly-funded programs, including our military) in two ways: the taxes he should be paying on his employees, and the taxes his non-paying cash employees should be paying. And that doesn't matter if his employees are illegal or not. It's still deliberate tax evasion.
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Old 08-01-2012, 01:07 PM
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Are illegals going to be required to obtain health insurance? Or are we going to treat them status quo? You know thru the ER.

BTW Legals who are being paid under the table to avoid having beni's cancelled are worse than illegals doing the same IMO.
No, illegal aliens are illegal.

Illegals paid under the table can't get "beni's". Are you really so ignorant you don't know how government programs you constantly rail against work?
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