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Old 07-31-2012, 07:02 PM
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OMG i just read that twisted quote of yours from the village idiot and he paid no taxes for ten years?

I'll wager anything you can name a year and Romney paid more taxes than Obama. In fact I'll wager Mitt has paid more in property/corporate tax alone than Obama paid total in any year you want.
would that be in raw dollars or percentage?


and here's this, if you care to peruse it:

http://www.thesoapboxers.com/taxes-paid-rich/


and it's a good question at the bottom....larger taxes on all money, or keep progressive taxes where the rate increases in proportion to disposable income? i'd say most would prefer the latter.

oh, and the poor, poor rich people...paying lower taxes now than any time in the last 80 years. cry me a river. maybe some day i could have that problem to deal with, being in a higher tax bracket. oh, the humanity.
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Old 07-31-2012, 07:05 PM
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and then there's this, from the wsj:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...705018156.html
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Old 07-31-2012, 07:40 PM
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The Daily Mail, conservative London Newspaper, continues to attack Mittens today - by making him an advice columnist:

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Old 08-01-2012, 06:58 AM
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http://hosted2.ap.org/APDEFAULT/3d28...2b25f5921be8d0

that's an article from AP, discussing romney's trip vs obama in '08..also some points about differing viewpoints regarding russia, etc.
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would that be in raw dollars or percentage?


and here's this, if you care to peruse it:

http://www.thesoapboxers.com/taxes-paid-rich/


and it's a good question at the bottom....larger taxes on all money, or keep progressive taxes where the rate increases in proportion to disposable income? i'd say most would prefer the latter.

oh, and the poor, poor rich people...paying lower taxes now than any time in the last 80 years. cry me a river. maybe some day i could have that problem to deal with, being in a higher tax bracket. oh, the humanity.
% means nothing, all measurements of this nature should always be in dollars. If I paid 50K last year and you paid 35K, I paid more, the % SHOULD be irrelevant to that discussion. The progressive tax rate is the right system but it needs some serious tweaking before it can work right.
The highest tax bracket is not that big of a number in a two income home near a major city.
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Old 08-01-2012, 09:32 AM
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]% means nothing[/b], all measurements of this nature should always be in dollars. If I paid 50K last year and you paid 35K, I paid more, the % SHOULD be irrelevant to that discussion. The progressive tax rate is the right system but it needs some serious tweaking before it can work right.
The highest tax bracket is not that big of a number in a two income home near a major city.
i disagree. when you compare tax payments, if i pay a higher percentage of my income than you, than i paid more in taxes in relation to income.
if someone makes 10 times more than me, that doensn't correlate to ten times more in taxes.
dollar wise, romney may have paid more. but in relation to income, who paid more? obama surely makes nowhere near what romney makes per year.
if he made 80% less, than 'fair' would dictate 80% less in taxes. is that the case? that's what i'm asking, because i don't know. but it doubt it. but since dell asserts it's a fact, i'd like to see the numbers.
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Old 08-01-2012, 09:41 AM
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http://news.yahoo.com/romney-tax-pla...130529619.html

an article on romney's tax plan. note the percentages, and who would benefit.
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http://news.yahoo.com/romney-tax-pla...130529619.html

an article on romney's tax plan. note the percentages, and who would benefit.
I do not really agree with Rombo's plan either. Certainly know Obamas plans won't work (proof is in the history 2008-2012 and 1976-1980). Don't care much for Congress, can't say I really like the Senate at all. Supreme Court is kind of a joke too.
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I do not really agree with Rombo's plan either. Certainly know Obamas plans won't work (proof is in the history 2008-2012 and 1976-1980). Don't care much for Congress, can't say I really like the Senate at all. Supreme Court is kind of a joke too.
yeah, i don't like this one. don't like him saying he wants the banking regulations they recently added to be removed either. rich paying less than ever, and he wants to cut it more. also don't like him saying he wants to grow the DofD. it's already huge. we need to step back, rethink our deployments. need a real retrenchment in that area-but it won't happen.
saw yesterday that ceo's are 4-1 in favor of romney-that ought to tell you something too.
house dems voted to keep the bush/obama tax cuts on everyone except the top level. house reps want it continued for everyone. i'd rather they let them expire than keep them all. guess we will see.
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i disagree. when you compare tax payments, if i pay a higher percentage of my income than you, than i paid more in taxes in relation to income.
if someone makes 10 times more than me, that doensn't correlate to ten times more in taxes.
dollar wise, romney may have paid more. but in relation to income, who paid more? obama surely makes nowhere near what romney makes per year.
if he made 80% less, than 'fair' would dictate 80% less in taxes. is that the case? that's what i'm asking, because i don't know. but it doubt it. but since dell asserts it's a fact, i'd like to see the numbers.
The scale slides very rapidly when dealing with large incomes.
We are only using income taxes as the primary factor in the equation and that is a problem. If you make 200K a year, it is likely that the person making 10x that number is paying 10x the taxes (in $) when you factor in all tax paid vs. just income tax.
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The scale slides very rapidly when dealing with large incomes.
We are only using income taxes as the primary factor in the equation and that is a problem. If you make 200K a year, it is likely that the person making 10x that number is paying 10x the taxes (in $) when you factor in all tax paid vs. just income tax.
also likely that the tax code (which needs reforming) helps out those at the top as well. of course it does-everything in congress is lobbied for by the very rich, of course everything will be done for their favor.
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also likely that the tax code (which needs reforming) helps out those at the top as well. of course it does-everything in congress is lobbied for by the very rich, of course everything will be done for their favor.
and there you have it.
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Stewart covers Romney's trip to Britain,Poland and Israel...


http://www.thedailyshow.com/full-epi...2-dambisa-moyo
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