3/14 seed shockers! Bold Ruler tops Barbaro, Citation fells John Henry

[Cannon Shell]

These results smell fishy. Current/recent wonderhorses Frankel, Black Caviar, Goldikova, IHA, Shackleford all lose?

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

These results smell fishy. Current/recent wonderhorses Frankel, Black Caviar, Goldikova, IHA, Shackleford all lose?

I know. Big Brown failed as the 6th seed as well.

Afleet Alex did at least beat Silver Charm...but other than that, the right horse won in a surprisingly high number of instances.

The person from the Paulick Report who choose the top 64 horses and made the seedings looks more dopey than the Internet voters.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

I know. Big Brown failed as the 6th seed as well.

Afleet Alex did at least beat Silver Charm...but other than that, the right horse won in a surprisingly high number of instances.

The person from the Paulick Report who choose the top 64 horses and made the seedings looks more dopey than the Internet voters.

The entire premise is bizzare or stupid or both

[Calzone Lord]

I think the premise is to find out how Zenyatta would do against other names from different generations and countries.

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

I think the premise is to find out how Zenyatta would do against other names from different generations and countries.

Yeah should we just pencil her in? Kinda amazing that Alysheba lost to War Admiral, but I guess folks voting for Seabiscuit couldn't resist setting that up. I like War Admiral, I just think "the People's horse" should've come out ahead.

[DaTruth]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

I think the premise is to find out how Zenyatta would do against other names from different generations and countries.

Zenyatta will defeat Personal Ensign in the quarter-finals, proving for the Zidiots that Z was the better horse.

[Calzone Lord]

We really should work together as a message board on this, and make sure Afleet Alex wins it all.

Think about this ... if not for Afleet Alex, Giacomo wins the Kentucky Derby, Scrappy T. blows them out in the Preakness and Andromeda's Hero edges the maiden Nolan's Cat in the Belmont.

[Soaring Softly]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

We really should work together as a message board on this, and make sure Afleet Alex wins it all.

Think about this ... if not for Afleet Alex, Giacomo wins the Kentucky Derby, Scrappy T. blows them out in the Preakness and Andromeda's Hero edges the maiden Nolan's Cat in the Belmont.

That's a good one, Doug. I know you mean Afleet Alex not being there at all. But think about this....Afleet Alex is there, and he doesn't recover from the "incident". Scrappy T wins, and is the quickest DQ that any of us have ever seen. That would have made Giacomo the Preakness winner.

We need to thank Afleet Alex not just for being there, but for his heroics in that Preakness. If he hadn't done what he did, Giacomo would have been going for the Triple Crown in the Belmont, and that 3 weeks and those asterisks would have been pretty difficult to deal with.

[OldDog]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

The entire premise is bizzare or stupid or both

Definitely both.

[slotdirt]

Excellent points on all counts on Afleet Alex. My appreciation has grown for the horse in spades by the two minutes it took to read this thread.

[Merlinsky]

Rachel vs Buckpasser is going on now. It's fun trying to guess who of the Buckpasser voters genuinely prefers him as opposed to the ones who are bitter about a certain 2009 HOY contest. He deserves fans, and I'm one of them, but let's not kid ourselves. There's tactics going on here.

[Calzone Lord]

Buckpasser was a better horse than RA. More popular among folks who inhabit the Internet in 2012? No.

Holy Bull VS Bold Forbes is fascinating. Similar style, similar ability, BF was a dual Classic winner despite his run-off speed, but Holy Bull was great after he failed to fire in the Derby. I'd take Bold Forbes as a 3yo over Seattle Slew, but probably give a slight edge to Holy Bull and certainly he was the more popular horse of the two.