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Old 11-08-2006, 12:37 PM
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What you are saying is 4 Grade III wins is equal to 1 Grade I win? I am not so sure about that.
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Old 11-08-2006, 12:47 PM
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What you are saying is 4 Grade III wins is equal to 1 Grade I win? I am not so sure about that.
I ignored grading when assigning the points, instead using relevance to the Triple Crown. I'm not sure which G3s there are that are only worth 5 points but I imagine they are either sprints, 2yo races, or in January or late May.
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Old 11-08-2006, 12:49 PM
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I ignored grading when assigning the points, instead using relevance to the Triple Crown. I'm not sure which G3s there are that are only worth 5 points but I imagine they are either sprints, 2yo races, or in January or late May.
Awww gotcha. Acutally I like the points system. I think it is awesome.
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Old 11-08-2006, 12:58 PM
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Awww gotcha. Acutally I like the points system. I think it is awesome.
I just realized they were in a wacky order so I edited my original post. I certainly think this would work well.
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Old 11-08-2006, 12:59 PM
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I like the idea. I'd support a point system rather than graded stakes earnings alone. I think that graded earnings should be converted to points and weighted. Routes get more points than sprints, G1's get more points than G2 or 3.
As it stands now, a dollar earned in the G3 Flash or Bashford Manor (very early 2yo stakes) counts as much as a dollar earned in the Wood Memorial or the Blue Grass. It doesn't happen often but it is possible than a win early 2yo type could keep a true contender out of the Derby.

That said, I have little sympathy for trainers who want to run 2x before the Derby, picking and choosing spots then get mad because their "second coming of Man O War" got left out. They are all aware of the rules as they stand.

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Old 11-08-2006, 01:05 PM
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I like the idea of a computer generated poll for all the divisions. The poll needs to factor in competition level, etc. And I think this site , teamed with T-graph, is in the perfect spot to start such polls. The poll could be patented and be a vehicle for promoting Derby Trail and T-graph as well.

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Old 11-08-2006, 03:20 PM
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Very rough sketch im sure, but seems very easy for the 2yr old juv. champ and maybe 2yr old horse of the year to be excluded for the derby with a couple bad trips.
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Old 11-08-2006, 03:28 PM
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Very rough sketch im sure, but seems very easy for the 2yr old juv. champ and maybe 2yr old horse of the year to be excluded for the derby with a couple bad trips.
You could make that a 20 point race but really if you can't make the top 20 in points after the head start you would get from your 2yo points do you really belong in the Derby?
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