Joe Drape Not as Sharp as He Thinks

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

I always thought Warren Sapp was by far the best player on that great Miami Hurricane defense that couldn't beat Nebraska. So did everyone, Sapp actually got a few Heisman votes.

But, you knew Ray Lewis was going to be a great pro when you heard him proudly boasting about how he only wore two pairs of jeans his entire time at the University of Miami.

If your proudest boast coming out of college is that you only wore 2 pairs of pants your entire time as a star at a university like that one -- it's really no surprise he is the greatest defensive player in the NFL I've ever watched play. That is the kind of crazy thing you'd expect to hear from someone who is undersized, but truly great and was getting better all the time and is still a factor even though he's ancient now.

Sadly, the twitter account for Ray Lewis is run by a PR guy who just posts about charity events. Could you see Ray Lewis in front of a keyboard texting whacked out stuff and making himself look like a complete moron like a lot of these athletes do?

Ed Reed was on that team too and he might be the best NFL player ever to wear pads, if not that then at least this generation.

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Ed Reed was on that team too and he might be the best NFL player ever to wear pads, if not that then at least this generation.

Check that, they were a few years apart, guess they have played so long together in the NFL that it seems like forever.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Check that, they were a few years apart, guess they have played so long together in the NFL that it seems like forever.

Yeah, Ed Reed came afterwards. He was at Miami from '98 to '01

Ray Lewis was at Miami from '93 to '96. Ray Lewis was on the dominant Super Bowl winning defense of the Ravens in 2000 when Reed was still in college.

Ray Lewis is an old surly Mofo. He might have about 8 super bowl rings if the Ravens had a good offense. They even won games with Kyle Boller.

Ray Lewis was once accused of a double murder -- and is now giving speeches to uppity Stanford kids. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07fhOVQ9wEA

[3kings]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Ed Reed was on that team too and he might be the best NFL player ever to wear pads, if not that then at least this generation.

Rod Woodson who actually played safety on that Raven super bowl team was a better player than Ed Reed.

[Calzone Lord]

The Ravens D that year was so fun to watch. It's the only defense I've ever seen where 3rd and inches for an offense seemed like 3rd and 6. They were almost impossible to run on in situations where the run was likely.

And in other news -- Facebook still has a boat load of single, angry, extremely horny, but desperately needy divorced moms on the market.

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Originally Posted by 3kings

Rod Woodson who actually played safety on that Raven super bowl team was a better player than Ed Reed.

I disagree, I do not think that offensive teams and coaches changed their offensive approach in a game because of Rod Woodson. The guy was great but Reed will alter the entire approach to a game, not just on a play by play basis.

Not just my opinion.
“Can’t say I’ve [coached] against anyone better in the secondary than Ed Reed,” Belichick said.

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Payton Manning has expressed these same sentiments several times in the past.

[Calzone Lord]

Woodson was pretty old when he played for the Ravens. He was a great Pittsburgh Steeler player.

Ed Reed is certainly a great player...but he's a far bigger menace against the pass. For a coach like Belichick, who has a pass heavy team that constantly throws the ball, he's got to fret over Ed Reed way more than your coach of a balanced offensive team.

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Woodson was pretty old when he played for the Ravens. He was a great Pittsburgh Steeler player.

Ed Reed is certainly a great player...but he's a far bigger menace against the pass. For a coach like Belichick, who has a pass heavy team that constantly throws the ball, he's got to fret over Ed Reed way more than your coach of a balanced offensive team.

I have heard same from Coughlin too. At the Tilted Kilt (Scottish Hooters, great bar) the night before the Thanksgiving game they played in Denver.

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Yeah, but wasn't Woodson a great Pittsburgh player as a cornerback? His post-1996 career was entirely different than the first several seasons of his career. He was an awesome cover, probably even better than he was a safety. IMO.

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I guess you guys never saw Lawrence Taylor. He redefined a position, the best I have ever seen.

The '85 Bears defense is the best unit I have ever seen, Buddy Ryan was a genius.