Romney’s Bain Years: New Evidence, Same Conclusion

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Given that the Republicans were in the majority in the House from '95 - '06, I don't think this statement is quite accurate.

oh, sorry...guess my memory was faulty. didn't think the dems took over both houses til after that period
at any rate, congress certainly in lock step on the votes. one i believe was unanimous? the other was certainly vast majority vs very few.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Danzig

at any rate, congress certainly in lock step on the votes. one i believe was unanimous? the other was certainly vast majority vs very few.

Actually the majority of Democrats in Congress voted against the Iraq War Resolution. I think it was something like 60% against.

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Originally Posted by miraja2

Actually the majority of Democrats in Congress voted against the Iraq War Resolution. I think it was something like 60% against.

81 for, 126 against

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Actually the majority of Democrats in Congress voted against the Iraq War Resolution. I think it was something like 60% against.

i thought the first vote, to invade afganistan, was unanimous? that's the one i was thinking of, not iraq. didn't know the party split, just that it was a majority vote.

yeah, like i said here:

at any rate, congress certainly in lock step on the votes. one i believe was unanimous? the other was certainly vast majority vs very few.

3/4 in one, over 2/3 on the other. had the controlling party wrong, but overall was talking about congress as a whole voting-wise.

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i thought the first vote, to invade afganistan, was unanimous? that's the one i was thinking of, not iraq.

Originally Posted by bigrun

True, but presented with the whole truth and nothing but the truth, i very much doubt they would have rubber stamped dumya's plan...

bigrun, if the wool was pulled over anyone's eyes in that regard, why has there been no investigation? no hearings? no one has come forward and said anything was 'cooked'. why do you continue to claim that, when there's no evidence? congress was lied to, but did nothing? they will have hearings about drugs in horse racing, steroids in baseball, but they're not going to bother with lies from intelligence agencies? you really think that?

And i was thinking of Iraq, guess i wasn't clear about that...

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by bigrun

And i was thinking of Iraq, guess i wasn't clear about that...

i wasn't clear either, looking back. i was muddling both cases together...the lying to congress obviously would have been about iraq. the votes were unanimous for afganistan, and a clear majority for iraq.

on iraq, the house vote for resolution 114 to use force was 296-133 in favor. so over 2-1. it was 77-23 in the senate. i had to look up the numbers, just knew my memory said it was a clear majority in favor.

perhaps we should change the rules on war voting? instead of a majority, it should be 3/4 for to do so. that would have meant defeat in the house. also think that if they don't want to actually declare war, we don't go at all. that would stop a lot of this as well. i think people would be surprised to know just how many times we've actually declared war-or should i say, how few times? but just as many soldiers dead anyway, others maimed or scarred for life, and lives ruined-for what?