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[Alabama Stakes]

a better question might be did you ever hear of starter allowance races ? why would want to lose him anyway ? why did he take the fronts off right away?

[jms62]

I may be wrong but I think he has more of an issue with the trainer moving the horse up as much as he did rather then losing him in a claim.

[Alabama Stakes]

fronts off, a radio in the stall playing dead shows from Boston 1991, happy hoss, faster hoss.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Speed that doesn't appear to want a foot past a mile cutting back? That's Ness' wheelhouse. You should have been able to bet on how far, not if he won.

[Linny]

Did the guy who ran the 2nd place finisher want to lose his horse? She wins a statebred A1x, then an open A1x and next out she's in for $5k? Might be a good claim, might have a wheel coming off. Granted the A2x's might be too much, but $5k?

As for why the claim, I don't know. Maybe they are willing to wait out the jail or if they run her back too high someone takes her and they get more than they paid after 2 weeks. They run her back at $6250 (maybe wrong distance etc) and she runs slow and then out of jail and back to $5k.

As for Ness (and his ilk) it must be frustrating. Looking at this horse, the big change was using a leading jock rather than a 5lb bug. From the side of a handicapper and bettor, I find races with these guys in them to be inscrutable. What do you do when Ness, Vasquez, Robertson and Anthony Dutrow make up 80% of the field?

[Cannon Shell]

At small tracks guys like Ness just cause havoc because no one has the money to fight them and really you feel like the worlds biggest sucker claiming horses off of him so basically you either avoid him and scratch or deal with it. It hasn't dawned yet on track management across the country that the genius outfits are a huge negative for their racing programs. Witness tonights 5th race at Penn.

[MISTERGEE]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

At small tracks guys like Ness just cause havoc because no one has the money to fight them and really you feel like the worlds biggest sucker claiming horses off of him so basically you either avoid him and scratch or deal with it. It hasn't dawned yet on track management across the country that the genius outfits are a huge negative for their racing programs. Witness tonights 5th race at Penn.

ness, dutrow, kobiskie, engelhart and kreiser a good start for a training hall of fame in 1 race. To answer the original question, no you should not be owning and running horses at Penn unless you have one of the supertrainers because they will be scooping most of that purse $