Coolmore fees for new stallions

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by Danzig188

why is giants causway private? usually when i see a horse go private, they're much older, having health or fertility problems and such. is this a way to deal on a mare by mare basis? what is the benefit(s) of having a horse like this guy go private?
also, do stud fees ever actively pursue a mare, or do they just accept or reject what comes their way?

I know of some instances whree farms have approached a mare owner (that they have had other previous dealings with) and offered them a very reduced rate on a top stallion that the fasrm owned shares in (the stud was not on said farm) with the deal being that that mare would go to one of their other studs (on the farm) the following year. i don't know how often this sort of thing goes on but i would expect it is not all that uncommon.

I agree that Aussie Rules should continue running. I think he can pick up a few more major wins, especially in the US. But with that said, out of all the retiring stallions, his pedigree is head and shoulders above the rest. His family is probably the best family in Europe. They're produced top stallions, top producers, and multiple classic winners all tracing back to major bluehen Mumtaz Mahal.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Balletto

I agree that Aussie Rules should continue running. I think he can pick up a few more major wins, especially in the US. But with that said, out of all the retiring stallions, his pedigree is head and shoulders above the rest. His family is probably the best family in Europe. They're produced top stallions, top producers, and multiple classic winners all tracing back to major bluehen Mumtaz Mahal.

That just makes it even more baffling that they retired him to stand for $15,000. Wouldn't a good campaign next year have doubled or tripled that?

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

That just makes it even more baffling that they retired him to stand for $15,000. Wouldn't a good campaign next year have doubled or tripled that?

Like I said, I think he should continue running. I think they're desperately trying to figure out who's going to be their heir apparent to Danehill. They're retiring everything Danehill that's shown any type of class... he would be the one I think stands the best chance. In my mind, he'll get a full book at that price, but yeah... he could have done more, no question. In reality, I would have loved to see him stand at Ashford. I would have bred to him this spring.

[brockguy]

as a side note, here are the current stallions by danehill with coolmore. the best is probably Danehill Dancer. they also have Catcher In The Rye, Oratorio, The Rock, Spartacus and Fastnet Rock down under. Aussie Rules fits in somewhere between Catcher In The Rye and Oratorio!

Originally Posted by brockguy

as a side note, here are the current stallions by danehill with coolmore. the best is probably Danehill Dancer. they also have Catcher In The Rye, Oratorio, The Rock, Spartacus and Fastnet Rock down under. Aussie Rules fits in somewhere between Catcher In The Rye and Oratorio!

Im assuming you're ranking them in order of class of pedigree? If thats the case, I would putt Aussie Rules first, followed by Oratorio and then Catcher in the Rye. Of course, these are unproven studss...

Interestingly enough, Danehill Dancer has every right to be a solid stallion. For those interested in pedigrees and class of female family, both Danehill Dancer and Street Sense hail from the bluehen Lianga, who is their 3rd and 4th dam, respectively.

[brockguy]

Originally Posted by Balletto

Im assuming you're ranking them in order of class of pedigree? If thats the case, I would putt Aussie Rules first, followed by Oratorio and then Catcher in the Rye. Of course, these are unproven studss...

Interestingly enough, Danehill Dancer has every right to be a solid stallion. For those interested in pedigrees and class of female family, both Danehill Dancer and Street Sense hail from the bluehen Lianga, who is their 3rd and 4th dam, respectively.

As a type of racehorse, Aussie Rules fits in between those two.. not quite up to Oratorio's level and the latter did win a G1 at 2 and 2 of the biggest 10f races in Europe at 3. and better than what the Catcher showed. dont know enough about breeding to class them by prospects at stud..