Coolmore fees for new stallions

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

They are in it for the ego part. They have failed miserably in producing an American stallion base and they now feel that they have 2 big pieces of the puzzle. Look up the stallions that they are currently standing in America Gainesborough/Shadwell/Darley and compare them with their chief rival Coolmores American stallion division.

Totally agree...this is about cementing Darley @ Jonabell as a superior Stud farm in KY. They just completed renovations on the farm last year and now need a marquis stallion (or 2) to draw interest...They are running their operation as a business only to furthur the goal of being the biggest/most influential/most sought after (add your own phrase) lineup of stallions in the bluegrass.

[Danzig]

why is giants causway private? usually when i see a horse go private, they're much older, having health or fertility problems and such. is this a way to deal on a mare by mare basis? what is the benefit(s) of having a horse like this guy go private?
also, do stud fees ever actively pursue a mare, or do they just accept or reject what comes their way?

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Danzig188

why is giants causway private? usually when i see a horse go private, they're much older, having health or fertility problems and such. is this a way to deal on a mare by mare basis? what is the benefit(s) of having a horse like this guy go private?
also, do stud fees ever actively pursue a mare, or do they just accept or reject what comes their way?

From what I've read I think it means they dropped his fee but don't want to publicize that so made it private instead.

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by Danzig188

why is giants causway private? usually when i see a horse go private, they're much older, having health or fertility problems and such. is this a way to deal on a mare by mare basis? what is the benefit(s) of having a horse like this guy go private?
also, do stud fees ever actively pursue a mare, or do they just accept or reject what comes their way?

I know of some instances whree farms have approached a mare owner (that they have had other previous dealings with) and offered them a very reduced rate on a top stallion that the fasrm owned shares in (the stud was not on said farm) with the deal being that that mare would go to one of their other studs (on the farm) the following year. i don't know how often this sort of thing goes on but i would expect it is not all that uncommon.

I agree that Aussie Rules should continue running. I think he can pick up a few more major wins, especially in the US. But with that said, out of all the retiring stallions, his pedigree is head and shoulders above the rest. His family is probably the best family in Europe. They're produced top stallions, top producers, and multiple classic winners all tracing back to major bluehen Mumtaz Mahal.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Balletto

I agree that Aussie Rules should continue running. I think he can pick up a few more major wins, especially in the US. But with that said, out of all the retiring stallions, his pedigree is head and shoulders above the rest. His family is probably the best family in Europe. They're produced top stallions, top producers, and multiple classic winners all tracing back to major bluehen Mumtaz Mahal.

That just makes it even more baffling that they retired him to stand for $15,000. Wouldn't a good campaign next year have doubled or tripled that?

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

That just makes it even more baffling that they retired him to stand for $15,000. Wouldn't a good campaign next year have doubled or tripled that?

Like I said, I think he should continue running. I think they're desperately trying to figure out who's going to be their heir apparent to Danehill. They're retiring everything Danehill that's shown any type of class... he would be the one I think stands the best chance. In my mind, he'll get a full book at that price, but yeah... he could have done more, no question. In reality, I would have loved to see him stand at Ashford. I would have bred to him this spring.

[brockguy]

as a side note, here are the current stallions by danehill with coolmore. the best is probably Danehill Dancer. they also have Catcher In The Rye, Oratorio, The Rock, Spartacus and Fastnet Rock down under. Aussie Rules fits in somewhere between Catcher In The Rye and Oratorio!