Frankel

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by brockguy

Doug,

You could pick so many holes in this logic,

No, you can't.

[brockguy]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

No, you can't.

Ha when I have the time I will - you seem to be suggesting that the horses who ran actually ran up to their or near their best form, I can easily argue that none of the other 4 horses did (which isn't that inconceivable!)

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by brockguy

Ha when I have the time I will - you seem to be suggesting that the horses who ran actually ran up to their or near their best form, I can easily argue that none of the other 4 horses did (which isn't that inconceivable!)

We debated this a few days after the race. I'm sure a lot of people in Europe took your position on it at the time ... which is why you got 6-to-1 odds on Cape Blanco in his obliteration of the Irish Champions next out. It's why you got 6-to-1 on Workforce in the Arc next out.

The odds that all four of these extremely honest Group 1 winning horses simultaneously all picked the same day to run non-efforts is unlikely.

When coupled with the fact that the race went 33 lengths faster than the other race on the card -- that comparison tells the story.

Cape Blanco, Youmzain, Daryakana, and Workforce are all outstanding horses and they all ran very close to par on a day when the weather conditions were lovely

Harbinger was a dramatically improving 4-year-old who absolutely exploded. It was a truly great performance. Like I said though, there's a difference between performers and performances. Harbinger broke down in a workout after that and never raced again. He was not a great performer at age 3 like Frankel was either. I have no problem with anyone saying Frankel was the better horse. Overall, obviously he is. That's undisputed.