NBA CHAMPIONSHIP: Who wins and in how many games

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

It's always funny to read people talking about the games being set up. I guess the league never wanted to see James vs Bryant in the finals, especially when Shaq was in Cleveland. That wouldn't have made for good TV at all. I guess they don't want large market teams like NY or Chicago in there and would much rather have OKC, SA, and Orlando in there. I also love how they want James to win so much that eight years in, he's still never won. If anything, I'd bet that the league would rather he lose because he's a much bigger draw and more polarizing when people can make the "yeah but he's never won" argument. Were the Rose and Howard injuries both faked to make his path easier this year? Did he almost derail Stern’s plans last night with that whole fake cramp thing or was that part of the script? Talk all you want about fouls but that is not what is deciding this series. If OKC is getting anything from Harden, they are up 3-1 instead. Who scripted Battier in those first three games or Chalmers and Cole last night? Were the OKC players told to let them score? Has Harden been paid to miss? I would have loved to have been in the meeting where the league told Harden to play bad on purpose and he agreed. I'm still waiting for the first player to come out and say that the league approached him and asked him to do his best to lose. How much do you offer a guy making $10 million plus to give up their dream?

It's not incomprehensible to believe that outside sources could get to a player and force him to compromise his game or to a coach and make him compromise his team's chances with how he coaches. I wouldn't doubt some OKC fans are wondering if the mob got to Brooks and that's why Fisher was on the court so much. But the league doing it? No chance.

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Of course it isn't rigged.

Maybe star players get preferential treatment from the refs in terms of calls -- but it's been that way at least since Jordan was playing.

Absolutely it's rigged. I mean beyond any shadow of a doubt.

Doesn't anyone remember game 6 of the Kings vs Lakers game back in 2002?????????????????????

If you can watch players like Jordan, Wade, etc. get away with flagrant rule breaking and not say it's rigged, you are idiotic.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Absolutely it's rigged. I mean beyond any shadow of a doubt.

Doesn't anyone remember game 6 of the Kings vs Lakers game back in 2002?????????????????????

If you can watch players like Jordan, Wade, etc. get away with flagrant rule breaking and not say it's rigged, you are idiotic.

That Kings/Lakers game was a joke. The biggest joke I've ever seen in the NBA. I don't have any doubts that things were not on the up and up there. But I also think that this was the referees doing, not the league. Do you realize how many people have to be involved in the league fixing games? Do you realize how many people have to remain silent to let them get away with it? I have serious doubts that they could get a guy like Kobe Bryant or Kevin Durant or LeBron James or Kevin Garnett to go along with their plans and agree to lose games on purpose. Guys aren't making $200k anymore. They are making millions and millions. You can't pay them enough to have them go along with it. And again, if Harden is giving OKC anything at all, they are winning this series. This despite whatever you might think of the refereeing. Harden was 2-10. That had nothing to do with the refs. Westbrook committed that silly foul with 13.8 left. Nothing to do with the refs. OKC is losing because they've failed to make the key plays. Period.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

That Kings/Lakers game was a joke. The biggest joke I've ever seen in the NBA. I don't have any doubts that things were not on the up and up there. But I also think that this was the referees doing, not the league. Do you realize how many people have to be involved in the league fixing games? Do you realize how many people have to remain silent to let them get away with it? I have serious doubts that they could get a guy like Kobe Bryant or Kevin Durant or LeBron James or Kevin Garnett to go along with their plans and agree to lose games on purpose. Guys aren't making $200k anymore. They are making millions and millions. You can't pay them enough to have them go along with it. And again, if Harden is giving OKC anything at all, they are winning this series. This despite whatever you might think of the refereeing. Harden was 2-10. That had nothing to do with the refs. Westbrook committed that silly foul with 13.8 left. Nothing to do with the refs. OKC is losing because they've failed to make the key plays. Period.

I never said the players are in on it, at all. I can see why you might think I implied that though. It's the officiating, plain and simple. Just use your eyes and don't be afraid of the implications of what you are seeing. It can liberate you.

An interesting note about refs. A friend of mine here says that something like five current or recent NBA refs all went to this one high school in the Philly area.

How weird is that?

Well next season lets hope the West can produce a team that can beat the Oklahoma City Sprinkles. I've seen enough of that team for a good 3 years.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Well next season lets hope the West can produce a team that can beat the Oklahoma City Sprinkles. I've seen enough of that team for a good 3 years.

Good luck with that.

I know right? Just think your team has the potential to top the Buffalo Bills.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

I know right? Just think your team has the potential to top the Buffalo Bills.

Sure, but I don't think that is going to happen. As long as we aren't the Raptors or Clippers, I'm good with that.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Well next season lets hope the West can produce a team that can beat the Oklahoma City Sprinkles. I've seen enough of that team for a good 3 years.

No one in the West can beat that team.
Lets just say Dallas somehow brings in Williams and Howard.... They still cant beat OKC.

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

No one in the West can beat that team.
Lets just say Dallas somehow brings in Williams and Howard.... They still cant beat OKC.

Sorry, Oreo.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

No one in the West can beat that team.
Lets just say Dallas somehow brings in Williams and Howard.... They still cant beat OKC.

OKC is built pretty well to handle those guys, but with Dirk too, it would be tough. Dirk isn't young though, not sure how many years he has left.