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Old 06-14-2012, 08:45 AM
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http://www.courier-journal.com/artic...TS08/306140026

KENTUCKY DERBY PREP SEASON

Late September into February

Points: 10 for first, 4 for second, 2 for third, 1 for fourth

Race Distance Track Location
Royal Lodge mile (T) Newmarket England
Norfolk 1 1/16 miles Santa Anita California
Breeders’ Futurity (S) 1 1/16 miles Keeneland Kentucky
Champagne mile Belmont New York
Grey 1 1/16 miles (S) Woodbine Canada
Breeders’ Cup Juvenile 1 1/16 miles Santa Anita (X) California
Delta Downs Jackpot 1 1/16 miles Delta Downs Louisiana
Remsen 1 1/8 miles Aqueduct New York
Kentucky Jockey Club 1 1/16 miles Churchill Kentucky
CashCall Futurity 1 1/16 miles (S) Hollywood Park California
Sham mile Santa Anita California
Smarty Jones mile Oaklawn Arkansas
Lecomte mile, 70 yards Fair Grounds Louisiana
Holy Bull mile Gulfstream Florida
Robert B. Lewis 1 1/16 miles Santa Anita California
Sam F. Davis 1 1/16 miles Tampa Bay Downs Florida
Withers 1 1/16 miles Aqueduct New York
El Camino Real Derby 1 1/8 miles (S) Golden Gate California
Southwest mile Oaklawn Arkansas


KENTUCKY DERBY CHAMPIONSHIP SEASON

PHASE ONE

Late February to late March

Points: 50 for first, 20 for second, 10 for third, 5 for fourth

Race Distance Track Location
Risen Star 1 1/16 miles Fair Grounds Louisiana
Fountain of Youth 1 1/16 miles Gulfstream Florida
Gotham 1 1/16 miles Aqueduct New York
Tampa Bay Derby 1 1/16 miles Tampa Bay Downs Florida
San Felipe 1 1/16 miles Santa Anita California
Rebel 1 1/16 miles Oaklawn Arkansas
Spiral 1 1/8 miles (S) Turfway Kentucky
Sunland Derby 1 1/8 miles Sunland Park New Mexico


PHASE TWO

Late March through mid-April

Points: 100 for first, 40 for second, 20 for third, 10 for fourth

Race Distance Track Location
Florida Derby 1 1/8 miles Gulfstream Florida
UAE Derby 1 3/16 miles (S) Meydan Racecourse Dubai
Louisiana Derby 1 1/8 miles Fair Grounds Louisiana
Wood Memorial 1 1/8 miles Aqueduct New York
Santa Anita Derby 1 1/8 miles Santa Anita California
Arkansas Derby 1 1/8 miles Oaklawn Arkansas
Blue Grass 1 1/8 miles (S) Keeneland Kentucky


FINAL PHASE

Late April

Points: 20 for first, 8 for second, 4 for third, 2 for fourth

Race Distance Track Location
Lexington 1 1/16 miles (S) Keeneland Kentucky
Derby Trial mile Churchill Kentucky


Key: X-in 2012; T-turf; S-synthetic surfaceNote: Information is based on most recent running of races. The official 2012-13 race dates, purses and distances for each race will be announced by the host tracks.
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Old 06-14-2012, 08:51 AM
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Poor D Wayne
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Old 06-14-2012, 08:56 AM
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I love it. Been hoping for something like this for awhile.
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Old 06-14-2012, 09:00 AM
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I love it. Been hoping for something like this for awhile.
Really? It seem really poorly thought out to me.

For instance, any top two year old who has a setback late in their 2yo season is going to have difficulty accruing points.
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Old 06-14-2012, 09:01 AM
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It probably not perfect, but it's a start that can be tweaked.
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Old 06-14-2012, 09:07 AM
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Doesn't anyone suspect that this may be the hammer that they could use to try and push the anti-Lasix agenda in a few years?
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Old 06-14-2012, 09:09 AM
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Doesn't anyone suspect that this may be the hammer that they could use to try and push the anti-Lasix agenda in a few years?
CD isn't exactly thrilled about the lasix ban..

http://www.kentucky.com/2012/06/12/2...ban-would.html
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Old 06-14-2012, 08:56 AM
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A third in the Sunland Derby is as important as a win in the BCJ or Hollywood Futurity?

Do the morons who run CD do ANYTHING right??????
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Old 06-14-2012, 08:57 AM
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Poor D Wayne
Poor Jim Miller
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Old 06-14-2012, 09:21 AM
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Poor Jim Miller
IL just got ****ed up and down, not just Hawthorne
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Old 06-14-2012, 09:27 AM
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IL just got ****ed up and down, not just Hawthorne
They can't possibly exclude the IL Derby, right? That had to have just been an oversight. Why would the UAE Derby be counted and not the IL Derby?
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Old 06-14-2012, 09:34 AM
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So none of the races at Saratoga, including the Hopeful, matter? Wow.

At least that ridiculous Delta Jackpot is no longer a free pass.
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Old 06-14-2012, 10:33 AM
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They can't possibly exclude the IL Derby, right? That had to have just been an oversight. Why would the UAE Derby be counted and not the IL Derby?
Who cares who wins in IL.?minor leage horse racing
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Old 06-14-2012, 02:59 PM
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They can't possibly exclude the IL Derby, right? That had to have just been an oversight. Why would the UAE Derby be counted and not the IL Derby?
Sure they could. Churchill wants Hawthorne gone. Recently there has been lawsuits back and forth and bad blood with Mr. D, because Mr. D bought the 'notes' that are on Hawthorne as a strategic move.

Arlington want Hawthorne to run a Keeneland type meet in April because that would mean more simucast revenue for AP, and they feel that the racing in Feb/March is subpar and drains the purse funds, plus they also feel that them not racing Feb and March would allow Arlington to offer even better purses because of that simulcast revenue.

I actually somewhat agree with Arlington on the issue, but it is how Churchill goes about the whole thing that always leaves a bad taste in people's mouths
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Old 06-14-2012, 09:47 AM
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Others who wouldn't have made the starting gate:

Sea Hero
Charismatic (24 points - 40 points is the expected cutoff)
Giacomo
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