A great day for the sport.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Every time I read one of these posts I am forced to reflect on my own gambling. In a casino I will only play craps and will only play correctly since anything else is a suckers game. Then I gamble on horses...

Me too - throw in sit down poker also (not Carribbean Stud or Three Card). If you are going to play a "negative expectation" game, craps is the best one by far.

Always play double odds and get that vig down to 0.6%. Bypass the hardways and play either place or come bets (again with double odds). It won't take too much of a streak to come out positive against the low vig.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Me too - throw in sit down poker also (not Carribbean Stud or Three Card). If you are going to play a "negative expectation" game, craps is the best one by far.

Always play double odds and get that vig down to 0.6%. Bypass the hardways and play either place or come bets (again with double odds). It won't take too much of a streak to come out positive against the low vig.

I am a three come better after the point table min+max odds. While very rarely hitting home runs I do pretty well over time.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

I am a three come better after the point table min+max odds. While very rarely hitting home runs I do pretty well over time.

Investigate starting with a Don't Pass and 2 Don't Comes , no odds on either and when the shooter hits a point start betting pass and and your come bet with odds. You will be a winner on Cold tables until it turns in your favor. You will be a loser if things fall in a specific order. Research it.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by jms62

Investigate starting with a Don't Pass and 2 Don't Comes , no odds on either and when the shooter hits a point start betting pass and and your come bet with odds. You will be a winner on Cold tables until it turns in your favor. You will be a loser if things fall in a specific order. Research it.

Mathematically I cannot argue a bit.
I am so against seeing any money on that line though and tend to start yelling at the don't bettors about how badly they are about to get beat. And I never drink while or before playing dice.

[rpncaine]

I hate it when people get pissed that I'm playing the "don't" side! I just smile and rake my chips in while the dealer is taking theirs.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by rpncaine

I hate it when people get pissed that I'm playing the "don't" side! I just smile and rake my chips in while the dealer is taking theirs.

I try and make it fun for everyone. It is usually easy since I tend to be the sober one at the table.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by rpncaine

I hate it when people get pissed that I'm playing the "don't" side! I just smile and rake my chips in while the dealer is taking theirs.

Yeah -- At first tell him "I'm not bettting against you, I'm betting against the dice"

If that's not good enough and he shoots a loser - tell him "the way you shoot, I should just sneak a GPS on your car and follow you around and bet against you everytime"

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Mathematically I cannot argue a bit.
I am so against seeing any money on that line though and tend to start yelling at the don't bettors about how badly they are about to get beat. And I never drink while or before playing dice.

I just tell them to just make a point and I'll be your friend.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by jms62

I just tell them to just make a point and I'll be your friend.

Fair enough request.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Mathematically I cannot argue a bit.
I am so against seeing any money on that line though and tend to start yelling at the don't bettors about how badly they are about to get beat. And I never drink while or before playing dice.

The last time I played dice drunk I lost $1,100 in about 25 minutes and all with my girlfriend standing and watching.

She was getting pale near the end and kept saying "oh my god, I want to vomit"

I was annoyed, but laughing at her and just told her I'm glad I'm getting my share of my bad luck out of the way here tonight.

I'd won about eight or nine times in a row prior for sessions where I tried to make $100. The time eventually comes where you have to pay the piper and the edge in their favor plays itself out.

After getting beat for $1,100 you just have to give up on trying to force the winning session. The casino has more cash than you do.

You keep winning $100 everytime -- sometimes it's a battle, sometimes it's the quickest and easiest thing in the world -- and you're getting comps left and right. But all it takes is one crazy streak that you find the wrong side of ... and you get hurt.

It's a fun time up there at 2AM on a Monday.

You get 10X odds in the back -- so the takeout is much less than 0.5%.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

The last time I played dice drunk I lost $1,100 in about 25 minutes and all with my girlfriend standing and watching.

She was getting pale near the end and kept saying "oh my god, I want to vomit"

I was annoyed, but laughing at her and just told her I'm glad I'm getting my share of my bad luck out of the way here tonight.

I'd won about eight or nine times in a row prior for sessions where I tried to make $100. The time eventually comes where you have to pay the piper and the edge in their favor plays itself out.

After getting beat for $1,100 you just have to give up on trying to force the winning session. The casino has more cash than you do.

You keep winning $100 everytime -- sometimes it's a battle, sometimes it's the quickest and easiest thing in the world -- and you're getting comps left and right. But all it takes is one crazy streak that you find the wrong side of ... and you get hurt.

It's a fun time up there at 2AM on a Monday.

You get 10X odds in the back -- so the takeout is much less than 0.5%.

I keep the wife by my side and she keeps every chip of a different color than I started with that comes my way. I have walked away a loser many times to learn I had $300 in her bag. My usual goal is to double the stake and leave.
You are getting 10x on all number or just 4 and 10? 10x on 5,6,8,9 seems like the casino would be putting the odds in your favor at least one or two players anyway.

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

I keep the wife by my side and she keeps every chip of a different color than I started with that comes my way. I have walked away a loser many times to learn I had $300 in her bag. My usual goal is to double the stake and leave.
You are getting 10x on all number or just 4 and 10? 10x on 5,6,8,9 seems like the casino would be putting the odds in your favor at least one or two players anyway.

Yes -- you can get 10X in the back on any number, including the 4 and 10, at fair odds.

In other words -- if you bet $5 on the pass and $50 in the back and the point is a 4. You'll make $5 up front (even money) and $100 in the back (2/1 odds)

If you bet $5 on the don't pass and the point is a 4. You can lay $100 to win $50 (1/2 odds) if they don't make the 4 and obviously you'll get even money on the front line bet.